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re: Best NBA rosters on paper with bad records?
Posted on 5/22/17 at 3:05 pm to spaceranger
Posted on 5/22/17 at 3:05 pm to spaceranger
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draymond averages more assists than curry
So if a player sags off Klay to help cover Steph coming off a screen while Draymond has the ball and he passes it to Klay for the assist, you can't comprehend that Steph made that play happen? That's what you're implying with this post.
Regardless who actually gets the assist, Steph's shooting ability makes that offense go.
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Posted on 5/22/17 at 3:08 pm to spaceranger
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That team still clicks without him. They win when he doesnt play lol. elite at setting screens? wtf are you talking about reaching up your arse to find something hes good at attracts defensive attention at shaq levels?
Yes, breaking, this roster is still a good team without Steph on the floor in 2017. Yeah, actually being able to set good screens and reading/reacting to it is actually the entire Warriors offense in a nutshell. Curry is well known as a great screen setter. I don't know how you don't see that as important if you truly watch basketball? Which further proves my point that all you look at is per game numbers and think you can just insert player A into player B's situation and ignore the rest of the variables.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 3:09 pm to spaceranger
quote:Much better than if you put Wall on Brooklyn
agreed. but still less of a team than if the others switched is what im saying
Posted on 5/22/17 at 3:13 pm to gobuxgo5
Minnesota now is a joke, KAT, Wiggins, Levine, Rubio and they're horrible.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 3:15 pm to kadillak
Not talking about this years roster when i said that. Last year during his super incredible mever seen before season that shits on the seasons of anyone else ever, when he didnt play in the playoffs because his poor little knee hurt, they still won. then when draymond leaves in the finals, they lose
Posted on 5/22/17 at 3:17 pm to montanagator
They have No leadership. Not surprising that they can't win games.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 3:18 pm to spaceranger
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Not talking about this years roster when i said that. Last year during his super incredible mever seen before season that shits on the seasons of anyone else ever, when he didnt play in the playoffs because his poor little knee hurt, they still won. then when draymond leaves in the finals, they lose
Well (A) Curry never returned to full strength after that knee injury during the post season. (B) The Warriors were playing the second best player of all time when they were without Dray, unlike when Curry was out.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 3:18 pm to monkeybutt
IF a player sags off klay 1. theyre dumb as hell and 2. i can comprehend he made it possible but not making it happen
also, people sag on off their defenders when theres any open 3 point shooter, not just steph
aint nobody at full strength in the post season man. not really valid
also, people sag on off their defenders when theres any open 3 point shooter, not just steph
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Well (A) Curry never returned to full strength after that knee injury during the post season
aint nobody at full strength in the post season man. not really valid
This post was edited on 5/22/17 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 5/22/17 at 3:19 pm to spaceranger
quote:When you have Steph, KD, and Curry, you have to pick your poison.
IF a player sags off klay 1. theyre dumb as hell and 2. i can comprehend he made it possible but not making it happen
Steph and his range has always been by far the biggest factor that makes the GS offense go.
This post was edited on 5/22/17 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 5/22/17 at 3:21 pm to montanagator
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Minnesota now is a joke, KAT, Wiggins, Levine, Rubio and they're horrible.
of their three best players, the oldest one turned 22 in february. they blew a metric frick ton of leads this year because of their youth. im not sure how far away they are, but if they keep the core 3 and they all keep progressing, this team is gonna be awesome.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 3:22 pm to shel311
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Steph and his range has always been by far the biggest factor that makes the GS offense go.
negative ghostrider. draymond getting rebounds and starting a fast break are what make that offense go. great defense that they play makes the offense go.
the offensive numbers probbaly arent that much different when curry doesnt play
Posted on 5/22/17 at 3:23 pm to spaceranger
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Not talking about this years roster when i said that. Last year during his super incredible mever seen before season that shits on the seasons of anyone else ever, when he didnt play in the playoffs because his poor little knee hurt, they still won. then when draymond leaves in the finals, they lose
So you just compared them going 2-1 without Steph against the Rockets and Blazers to losing 1 game against the Cavs? Does your thought process have the capacity to factor in level of competition? Do you think they take the Cavs to 7 games without Steph for the series?
I cannot believe I'm actually seeing someone shite on Steph's season last year. It was an all time great season. What kind of a miserable prick can't even acknowledge we all witnessed something great last year. 50/45/91. The dude obliterated any question that he is the best shooter in NBA history. What is the point in hating on that?
Posted on 5/22/17 at 3:27 pm to spaceranger
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the offensive numbers probbaly arent that much different when curry doesnt play
15-16 on court Ortg 119.1
15-16 off court ortg 105.3
Go away idiot.
eta:
14-15 on court ortg 116.6
14-15 off court ortg 102.3
Those two undeserving MVP years.
Defensive numbers:
15-16 on court opponent ortg 101.2
15-16 off court oppo ortg 109.6
14-15 on court 100.0
14-15 off court 103.5
Sure doesn't look like a terrible defender. You are out of your element.
This post was edited on 5/22/17 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 5/22/17 at 3:28 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
quote:Towns is their best player, but I would put either or both Rubio (26) and Dieng (27) in their top 3 with maybe Levine. Wiggins is 4th most likely their 5th best player.
of their three best players, the oldest one turned 22 in february.
This post was edited on 5/22/17 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 5/22/17 at 3:30 pm to spaceranger
quote:How many fast break points per game do they score?
negative ghostrider. draymond getting rebounds and starting a fast break are what make that offense go
That's definite not 1/10th compared to Curry's shot and range.
Not sure you can miss that badly at that.
quote:Ortg is 121.3 with Steph on the court this season, 104.4 with him off, they're 16.9 pts worse per 100 possessions when he is off the court this season.
the offensive numbers probbaly arent that much different when curry doesnt play
13.8 last season. 14. 3 the season before that. 16.0 the season before that.
Should I go on, or can we concede that you vastly underrated his importance to the offense?
Posted on 5/22/17 at 3:34 pm to shel311
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15-16 on court Ortg 119.1 15-16 off court ortg 105.3 eta: 14-15 on court ortg 116.6 14-15 off court ortg 102.3 Those two undeserving MVP years.
Sheesh
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Ortg is 121.3 with Steph on the court this season, 104.4 with him off, they're 16.9 pts worse per 100 possessions when he is off the court this season. 13.8 last season. 14. 3 the season before that. 16.0 the season before that.
Sheeesh x2
Posted on 5/22/17 at 3:59 pm to shel311
thats still second in the league
draaaayyyyyymoooonnnnddddd greeeeeeen is why that offense is so good
from last year. they still wreck shite without him playing period.
@the ortg with him on court and off court
he doesnt look like a terrible defender because hes never on the ball. eye test homie. it means alot more than whatever advanced stats you pull out your arse mean. he cant stay in front of anyone and cant body anyone down low. they hide him off the ball and let him play the passing lanes which hes good at. They hide him and take him out of tight games because hes such a shitty defender
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Try this stat on for size: Whenever the Warriors had Curry and Green on the floor at the same time during the regular season, their net rating was an unstoppable plus-20.1, per NBA.com. But when Curry played without Green by his side, Golden State only outscored its opposition by 1.0 point per 100 possessions. One point!
draaaayyyyyymoooonnnnddddd greeeeeeen is why that offense is so good
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The most recent piece of evidence came in the second half of Sunday’s game, when the Curry-less Warriors exploded all over the Houston Rockets, outscoring them 65-38 in the final two quarters.
from last year. they still wreck shite without him playing period.
@the ortg with him on court and off court
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Remember, though, that most of those minutes came with Golden State's second unit on the court or sometimes even the third string to close out one of the Warriors' many blowout wins. When we break down Golden State's performance sans Curry by who else was playing using NBAwowy.com, it's clear Golden State is still an elite team, as long as Curry's fellow All-Stars Draymond Green and Klay Thompson are out there.
he doesnt look like a terrible defender because hes never on the ball. eye test homie. it means alot more than whatever advanced stats you pull out your arse mean. he cant stay in front of anyone and cant body anyone down low. they hide him off the ball and let him play the passing lanes which hes good at. They hide him and take him out of tight games because hes such a shitty defender
This post was edited on 5/22/17 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 5/22/17 at 4:23 pm to spaceranger
quote:
Try this stat on for size: Whenever the Warriors had Curry and Green on the floor at the same time during the regular season, their net rating was an unstoppable plus-20.1, per NBA.com. But when Curry played without Green by his side, Golden State only outscored its opposition by 1.0 point per 100 possessions. One point!
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draaaayyyyyymoooonnnnddddd greeeeeeen is why that offense is so good
A. Net rating factors in defense. Draymond is a top 2 defender in the league. Why not post what the strictly offensive numbers look like with your criteria?
B. You posted Curry-Dray, Curry-No Dray... What about Dray-No Curry?
Posted on 5/22/17 at 4:31 pm to spaceranger
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eye test homie. it means alot more than whatever advanced stats you pull out your arse mean.
An admitted haters eye test means more? You are ridiculous. This post was edited on 5/22/17 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 5/22/17 at 4:32 pm to spaceranger
quote:So your way to discredit Curry is to tell me he's 2nd best in the league with on/off?
thats still second in the league
quote:You think Wall is as good as Curry overall, I ain't trusting your eye test for 1 second.
eye test homie.
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