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re: Best center in the NBA - Hassan Whiteside

Posted on 10/29/15 at 9:26 am to
Posted by LSU Piston
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 9:26 am to
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Someone needs to throw Cousins into the conversation.


A great case can be made for Cousins, definitely
Posted by JGTiger
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 9:26 am to
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Player Rankings both by CBS and ESPN have him as a Top 10ish player in the league. If you watch Memphis, it is evident that he is the alpha dog on that team.


While the 1st statement is true, it's the 2nd statement that makes your answer correct. You really just have to watch him play to see that he is the best Center in the league.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 9:26 am to
Dwight has been mentioned. If Boom finds this to go with RTR, we have a 10 pager at least
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 9:43 am to
Stats from the last two years of playoffs...

Marc Gasol: 18.8 points, 9.28 rebounds, 1.38 blocks, 39.9% shooting (18 games)

Dwight Howard: 18.9 points, 13.9 rebounds, 2.4 blocks, 56.6% shooting (23 games)
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 9:48 am to
I'd def rather have a healthy Dwight than Gasol, but that's just me.

Want Cousins over both.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 9:59 am to
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Marc Gasol: 18.8 points, 9.28 rebounds, 1.38 blocks, 39.9% shooting (18 games) Dwight Howard: 18.9 points, 13.9 rebounds, 2.4 blocks, 56.6% shooting (23 games)


How about assists?

Gasol is a facilitator. He's more than capable of handling the ball, and creating for his teammates. A point-center if you will. It's a feature that makes him unique amongst 5s in the league, and it's a big reason why he gets so much love.

He's a massive 7 footer with skills.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 10:01 am to
The Grizzlies have a great point guard. They need scorers. And Gasol shooting less than 40% as a post player is pathetic.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 10:09 am to
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How about assists?


3.6 a game, less than two more than Dwight. I don't think that's really a big deal. I'd rather my center defend the paint and rebound. FWIW Cousins averaged the same amount as Gasol last season.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 10:11 am to
Gasol is an elite interior defender. Just an all around very good basketball player.
Posted by arcalades
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 10:14 am to
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I'd rather my center defend the paint and rebound.
There's really no good case for Dwight because he has no heart and no serious competitiveness in him. He could still get it but it's doubtful.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 10:14 am to
I agree
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 10/29/15 at 10:17 am to
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There's really no good case for Dwight because he has no heart and no serious competitiveness in him. He could still get it but it's doubtful.


This is stupid as hell. Because he laughs on the bench? He has already taken a team to the Finals (beat Lebron head to head) and has been a beast in the playoffs basically every year he's been there.

Posted by idlewatcher
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 10:28 am to
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Best center in the NBA - Hassan Whiteside


Someone been watching too much Steven A.
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 10/31/15 at 3:46 am to
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Which is why Memphis won't win anything. Gasol is soft.


Gasol isn't soft, but that's not the reason Memphis won't win. Memphis has no shooting.


Howard is a mental midget compared to Gasol-which is why IF the Rockets win it won't be because of Howard.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 10/31/15 at 4:10 am to
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Dwight has been mentioned. If Boom finds this to go with RTR, we have a 10 pager at least


I have no issue with people making the case for Dwight being #1, when Dwight is at his best he is best C in the league. The problem is that his injuries has really impacted how often we can see him at his peak. His defense has really dropped since he left Orlando.

It is an interesting discussion because Dwight is so damn limited in what he brings you, but he is so damn good at it. You can't really throw the ball in to him down low because he still only has 1 fricking post move. You can't throw him the ball in the high post because he isn't a threat at all there without a jumper or any sort of passing ability. He is a liability at times because his poor free throw shooting. Gasol is superior in all of these areas. Dwight is just one of the best PnR bigs we have ever seen and a monster on the glass.

I forgive Swag because he can be a bit slow at times, but I hate that herp derp look at these numbers line he likes to play so often. He so typically falls down the Boom rabbit hole of selecting certain numbers to try to make himself seem more right. Of course the guy who only shoots layups and dunks shot the higher % from the field than the guy who gets the most hi-post touches the league. He likes to leave out some things like FT% or assists for some odd reason. The teams function differently. Dwight plays majority in a 4 out 1 in system where he is basically the sole PnR option (also so happens to play with one the best PnR ball handlers in the league) and he is surrounded by guys willing to jack up a ton of 3's to space the floor. Gasol plays in an offense with few shooters, another big occupying the post, and where has to play creator a ton. There is a reason a ton of those numbers he posted go up for Gasol when ZBo is out (rebounds especially).
Posted by Slippery Slope
Hail Satan
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/31/15 at 4:54 am to
Swag just wants to 69 with Dwight until their wieners turn to raisins.
Posted by drake20
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 11:34 pm to
Triple double bump
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 11:47 pm to
lol @ you

lol @ Ron Burgundy

Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66890 posts
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:09 am to
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Triple double bump


When he goes to that B. Simmons Passing Academy next summer, he'll mess around and get that Hakeem the Dream quad dub
Posted by BoardReader
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:36 am to
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Triple double bump



FTFY:

A Loss and an inability to play crunch time minutes because he is a liability at the FT Line bump.
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