re: Barry Bonds will be the one who breaks the HOF steroid barrier

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Yes they were, the mlb just didn’t rigorously test for steroids back then but they were still illegal in baseball. Steroids were added to the banned substance list in 1991

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From a LEGAL standpoint, according to the then-Commissioner himself, incorrect

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In 1991, Commissioner Fay Vincent sent a memo to all teams stating that steroid use was against the rules, though there was no official rule change. Vincent has said that the memo was intended as a "moral statement" to the players, rather than a "legal one", that "the only way a change could be made was through collective bargaining," and "When I left baseball, there was no written policy on drug activity in baseball."

After the BALCO scandal, which involved allegations that top baseball players had used illegal performance-enhancing drugs, Major League Baseball banned steroids. The policy, which was accepted by Major League Baseball players and owners, was issued at the start of the 2005 season and went as follows:

A first positive test resulted in a suspension of ten games, a second positive test resulted in a suspension of 30 games, the third positive test resulted in a suspension of 60 games, the fourth positive test resulted in a suspension of one full year, and a fifth positive test resulted in a penalty at the commissioner’s discretion. Players were tested at least once per year, with the chance that several players could be tested many times.

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Vote them in with a confession of cheating next to their plaques.

Make sure it’s huge and signed by players. That’s my compromise

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Im down, but only if we can get Cobb to sign "I'm a racist frick and didn't have to play against any negroes."

Every pitcher that doctored baseballs, every manager that stole signs, etc. If this is going to be based off of morality and relevancy to the game, then let's not seclude it to steroids.

Rose will never be in they won’t posthumously reinstate him. They didn’t Joe Jackson and they have nothing really on him

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Why is schilling not getting in?

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Cause he is an a-hole

Palmeiro should get in.

He had a HOF career before roids, and has legendary numbers. Has no business not being in.

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Yep A Rod will get in first ballot

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no way

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Rose will never be in they won’t posthumously reinstate him. They didn’t Joe Jackson and they have nothing really on him
Times are different now. Kennesaw Mountain Landis is long gone

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As much as I love Charlie Hustle, his effort, and his dominance at baseball, hard to induct a guy who bet on baseball involving his own team, knowing the nuances of sports betting as we do too much potential for conflict of interest and possible run-shaving and that naturally injures the integrity of the sport because that replaces achievement and outcomes on the genuine merits and the unpredictable wonder of sports with suspicions of orchestration, manipulation, and dishonest effort basically amounting to rigging games and no red-blooded American wants that.

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He compromised the game. How is putting him in the Hall gonna gonna further compromise it?

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I'd presume the implications of enshrinement in this regard are quite obvious, wouldn't you think? Self-proving.

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You think some young manager is gonna consider betting on baseball, because "hey Pete Rose did it and yeah they banned him for life but they still put him in the Hall of Fame 40 years later after he died so what's the risk?"

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That manager better be the caliber and legend of one Pete Rose or he ain't got a shite chance of making it.

Look its completely obvious the point of his exclusion from the Hall is baseball will not reward those who compromise the game and deny compromising the game for over a decade with enshrinement, I think that's fair and I love Charlie Hustle but the preclusion makes total sense to me, NO ONE wants the game to be compromised, bro.

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But then after he is dead and it's all over, a spot needs to be reserved. Not for his sake. He can't be rewarded anyways, he's dead. For the sake of the Hall. For the Hall to not have the greatest hitter of all time means the Hall is sorely and severely lacking.

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This may appear pretty radical but, to me, enshrining him now would be a moot point because everyone who actually knows baseball knows how great a player he was and how dominant and this exclusion has made him a cult figure, martyr in a fricked up way, so why would the Hall induct him? Hall of Fames are obvious popularity contests anyways, nothing to do with performance on the field, its complete bullshite, if the Hall doesn't want to induct him they don't have to. The entire point of Halls of Fame are to remember legends for the next generation of sports fans but, as relates to Pete, he's annually remembered because of his infamous exclusion and his baseball records so whats a HOF induction gonna accomplish for anything? It indirectly does this annually and it works, humans vote for this shite anyway.