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Are there certain teams that should never contend for CFP or Natty?
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:32 pm
Most everyone loves a Cinderella/underdog story. However, it seems on the rare occasion you actually have one contending, it is written off as a quirk, or the rest of the competition is "down" that year.
Do you believe that any P5 team has the ability to compete for a national title, or are there teams that should ALWAYS be on the outside looking in? In other words if certain teams do find themselves in the mix in December, is the process somehow illegitimate that year or a sign that the normal players are down?
Do you believe that any P5 team has the ability to compete for a national title, or are there teams that should ALWAYS be on the outside looking in? In other words if certain teams do find themselves in the mix in December, is the process somehow illegitimate that year or a sign that the normal players are down?
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Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:33 pm to GAAtty70
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are there teams that should ALWAYS be on the outside looking in?
Yes. Georgia.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:41 pm to GAAtty70
Well, Baylor's athletic department should be razed and salted, along with any of their mainline administrators who ever did the tiniest thing to support them.
Or do you mean something different?
Or do you mean something different?
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:41 pm to Weagle25
I wish there was a witty retort for me here, but what you say has some truth to it.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:44 pm to GAAtty70
The NCAA is going to make sure Ole Miss falls into this category
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:44 pm to GAAtty70
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Do you believe that any P5 team has the ability to compete for a national title, or are there teams that should ALWAYS be on the outside looking in?
Back when it was 2 teams in the BCS, probably always on the outside looking in. I know TCU was close, though, in 2009. Maybe Cincinnati, too. I can't remember.
With four teams, I'm sure you'll see one get in sooner or later.
This post was edited on 6/25/17 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:47 pm to tokenBoiler
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Well, Baylor's athletic department should be razed and salted, along with any of their mainline administrators who ever did the tiniest thing to support them.
Or do you mean something different?
I suppose cheating and criminal enterprises would qualify. However, what I meant is are there teams that don't recruit well enough, have a large enough fan base, or generate enough revenue to run with the big boys, so that if they do compete at the highest level, it means that the system has failed.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:48 pm to VermilionTiger
quote:i think ole miss can do this on their own
The NCAA is going to make sure Ole Miss falls into this category
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:49 pm to BayouBengals03
I think he's basically talking about Iowa State type teams. Hell Kansas football was very close in 2007.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:54 pm to TheWalrus
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I think he's basically talking about Iowa State type teams. Hell Kansas football was very close in 2007.
Those are good examples....I guess my question is do you actually view those teams as good when they succeed or is it somehow a mirage created by the failings of teams who have the legitimacy to be there?
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:57 pm to GAAtty70
I do believe that there are certain teams who, by virtue of a lack of tradition, a lack of high school talent and/or geographical location, will never win a football national championship. If I were being honest I'd say my team is one of those.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:58 pm to GAAtty70
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Do you believe that any P5 team has the ability to compete for a national title, or are there teams that should ALWAYS be on the outside looking in?
Every year there's only a handful of teams that can win the title
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:58 pm to GAAtty70
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or are there teams that should ALWAYS be on the outside looking in?
Then why are they playing?
Not very American of you.
And this already organically (and by organic, I mean shithead stuck in the mud sportswriters) works itself out.
There are only so many school that ever get real Top 25 votes...and it's about 35 schools with 10 wildcards.
So you're safe OP; "others receiving" will never win the Natty.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:59 pm to SCLibertarian
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being honest I'd say my team is one of those.
nah
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:59 pm to GAAtty70
The committee needs to go to the wayside. The BCS-era computers generally put the teams in the proper ranking order at the end of the year IMO.. with the expansion to 4 teams, by all means, let anyone in the top 4 compete for the championship.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:59 pm to SlowEasyConfident
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Every year there's only a handful of teams that can win the title
So there is no room for a legit Cinderella?
Posted on 6/25/17 at 9:00 pm to BayouBengals03
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Back when it was 2 teams in the BCS, probably always on the outside looking in. I know TCU was close, though, in 2009. Maybe Cincinnati, too. I can't remember.
TCU wasn't in a major conference that year.
As far as the OP goes. If Vanderbilt (just for example) goes undefeated this year, then I don't see any reason they shouldn't make it. It shouldn't be based on TV dollars, potential viewers, ticket sales, or anything of the sort.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 9:00 pm to GAAtty70
In college football no
Posted on 6/25/17 at 9:03 pm to SlowEasyConfident
I would be curious who everyone thinks the teams are that have no legitimate shot in any given year.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 9:05 pm to lesgeaux
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The committee needs to go to the wayside. The BCS-era computers generally put the teams in the proper ranking order at the end of the year IMO.. with the expansion to 4 teams, by all means, let anyone in the top 4 compete for the championship.
This is what was proposed by Mike Slive in 08 but only the ACC commish supported it.
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