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re: Anyone else watching Sam Houston vs TCU?

Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:31 am to
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:31 am to
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He slides very late

Not against the rules.
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and into the runner

I assume you mean fielder, and it isn't against the rules either.
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They slide before the bag and then into the bag

Yes, they are required to by the rules...if not it is illegal. However, the rules do not state where exactly before the bag the slide must begin.
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not sliding directly on top and into the runner

Again assuming you mean fielder and again it isn't against the rules to slide into them if they are in the baseline.
Posted by ForkEmDemons
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:32 am to
But you must avoid contact with the fielder if possible. It was possible, he intentionally hit the fielder, thus he is out.

Really an easy call.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
28067 posts
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:33 am to
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But you must avoid contact with the fielder if possible

According to you, but not the rules.
Posted by ForkEmDemons
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2014
2235 posts
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:40 am to
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According to you, but not the rules.


According to the rule page 80

If the runner attempts to dislodge the ball or initiates an
avoidable collision, the runner shall be declared out

(3) The runner must attempt to avoid a collision if he can reach the base
without colliding

Again you are considered to have 3 paths to the base

a----------------
b---------------
c---------------

In this case b and c were occupied, thus the runner needs to take a to avoid collision. The runner chose b/c therefore in violation of the rule.

The diagram is on page 76.

Also they showed another angle replay on ESPN. The runner was out about 4-5 steps before the bag meaning he no longer had a right to the bag which makes the contact even worse.
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 4:24 am
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
90130 posts
Posted on 6/1/14 at 7:27 am to
Go Frogs!!!

Crazy fricking game!
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:23 am to
Bump.

Just read some of this thread. Sounds heated.

Sam Houston got fricked. Even if not in the 21st, in the 9th.

frick TCU and their crap overrated team.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
90130 posts
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:24 am to
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frick TCU and their crap overrated team.



Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:25 am to
Sorry, I'm on the "LSU as the only national seed in Omaha" train.

ily rummy
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
90130 posts
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:27 am to
I want a TCU/LSU championship series.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:30 am to
I'm really confident in LSU right now tbh.

They honestly seem to be playing better than anyone.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37632 posts
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:34 am to
Yeah a lot of national and regional seeds aren't looking great.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50541 posts
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:35 am to
This was an obvious screwing.

What the GIF does not show, is the entire play as well.

The runner at first was going to be safe by a mile, even if the throw goes off without a hitch. That was the game winning play and TCU knew it. Look at their fielders. They knew their only hope of the game continuing was the ump gifting them yet another call (they got one in the 9th too).

They got their wish.

Oh well. It is college baseball. At the end of the day, no one will care about lowly Sam Houston State. If this was LSU, UT or another marquis baseball program, it would be a bigger story.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
28067 posts
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:38 am to
quote:

According to the rule page 80

If the runner attempts to dislodge the ball or initiates an
avoidable collision, the runner shall be declared out

(3) The runner must attempt to avoid a collision if he can reach the base
without colliding

Once again, you quote this rule and leave out the key part. "If the defensive player blocks the base (plate) or base line with clear possession of the ball, the runner may make contact, slide into or make contact with a fielder as long as the runner is making a legitimate attempt to reach the base (plate)."

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The diagram is on page 76.

The diagram on page 76 shows where the defender is protected. And if you're trying to use this as your point

" Exception—A runner need not slide directly into a base as long as the runner slides or runs in a direction away from the fielder to avoid making contact or altering the play of the fielder. Interference shall not be called."

It refers to what a runner can do if they choose not to slide directly into the base. You have to understand the context. The force play slide rule says they must slide directly into the base or be called for interference. This exception allows them to get out of the baseline as long as they aren't going out of the baseline to make contact. This is in place so they can avoid being hit in the face by the throw to first in case they aren't close enough to the base to slide. It does not say they must veer out of the baseline.

Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
32022 posts
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:44 am to
What page is the gif on?
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
90130 posts
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:45 am to
It's 9:45 am CST....


...and TCU still won the game.


Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
32022 posts
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:49 am to
Just found the play, that's a terrible call. The guy slides directly into the base and the 2nd baseman is standing there flat footed like a moron. What's the runner supposed to do not slide into the base? If the 2nd baseman knew how to field his position this wouldn't have been an issue. You're supposed to learn how to avoid that in like 5th grade
Posted by Shoulderchoke
Swamps of Lafourche
Member since Aug 2008
7839 posts
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:51 am to
Glad I went to bed at 1


frick TCU and their shitty uniforms
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6105 posts
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:57 am to
Wonderful.
Lost my bet on SHSU and my pick to win that regional.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 6/1/14 at 10:00 am to
The gif is on page 18. Looks like the runner initiated contact with a fielder to me, and it's pretty significant contact. I can't blame an ump for calling that an illegal slide.

I didn't watch the game and I don't much like TCU, but that call is hardly outrageous.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
90130 posts
Posted on 6/1/14 at 10:01 am to
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frick TCU and their shitty uniforms



Hey, how's UNO doing in their regional with their awesome uniforms?
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