re: Another Baylor student comes forward

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This is why you don't frick up like Baylor did, it opens you up to opportunists and scam artists. Not saying she is for certain, just saying if she is that is the taste of the medicine.

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yeah I get what you're saying. I mean regardless, just because it seems weird as frick doesn't mean she's lying either.

Just really strange.

Latest Baylor News!

Two more Baylor female students were interviewed and are claiming they were raped.

One by a current football player and one by a non-athlete.

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WACO -- As details continue to unravel about Baylor University’s mishandling of sexual assault cases, more victims are coming forward.

Encouraged by the recent public outcry over how the university has treated victims, two sexual assault victims came forward to KCEN. With names like "Art Briles” and "Ken Starr" stealing the headlines, the women wanted to make sure victims aren't lost in the Baylor media shuffle.

One woman named “Ally” said she was raped by a Baylor football player.

“I feared retaliation from him, his friends, his family…and I still do,” said Ally, a senior at Baylor.

It’s taken Ally more than two years to talk about the night of her alleged assault in the Spring of 2014.

“It seemed really normal, like hanging out you click with someone, and you don't expect it to go from zero to 100,” said Ally.

That “someone” is a current Baylor football player. Ally says he raped her, her freshman year. Ally said she was introduced to him through a new friend, and they were supposed to go to a teammate’s birthday party, but decided to stay at his place.

“I agreed to kiss him, I didn't think that from that it would escalate to him being on top of me and completely disregarding anything that was coming out of my mouth,” said Ally.

Afterward, she walked home, went to bed, then woke up screaming. A friend took her to the health clinic on campus the next morning. She told the doctor what happened but didn't want the word ‘rape’ or ‘rape kit’ on her medical record. The doctor told her she could put it down as a regular office visit, gave her information on pregnancy and STD's, and said ‘good luck.’

"I wanted, I guess, guidance and more information on what I could do besides 'here's to make sure you're not pregnant, here's to make sure you don't have STD’s' and that never solved the problem that was still out there, the potential danger for other girls,” said Ally.

Ally said she’s been trying to avoid that danger ever since by hiding from her rapist on campus.

“I try to avoid going to places that I feel football players or he specifically would be at,” said Ally.

Ally believes the “football” part of her story is part of what has silenced her, and her university, regarding rape. She said she called the counseling department once, but felt the football aspect shied them away from doing more for her.

“You know, it seemed like something they (the doctor and counselor) didn't want to attack, they didn't want to address,” said Ally.

Ally isn't alone in feeling Baylor turns a blind eye to rape.

“To say that somebody doesn't understand what goes on at college campuses, especially if they work there is just...I think that Baylor is fully aware of the things that go on,” said Sierra Smith, a junior at Baylor.

Smith said the university is aware of her rape; she says she told them a month after it happened this Spring semester. She said she felt supported at first, but unlike Ally, Sierra believes her case has been put on the back burner because her rapist isn't on the football team.

“As time went on, it just seemed more and more evident that my case wasn't relevant and I felt that was especially pertinent because he wasn't a football player or an athlete or even a frat star he was just another classmate,” said Smith.

Although upset at how their situations have been handled, both Smith and Ally are hopeful for a change in culture on campus...so other women can have the Baylor experience they deserve.

"I'm proud of how I've done in my classes...I don't know that I'm proud of Baylor University anymore,” said Ally.

“The policy is all there, it's just a couple people made mistakes along the way and Baylor is acknowledging that we just need to see things happen now,” said Smith.

Smith’s case with Baylor is pending.

While Ally hasn't reported yet, she's considering taking this to the university and to police.

KCEN thanks these brave survivors for coming forward and sharing their stories with us.

We will continue to push Baylor to release the full report and findings from Pepper Hamilton’s investigation to hold those responsible for creating a culture at Baylor which would keep these survivors stories from being heard until now. We are asking for the full report with the victims names, and any other identifying information, withheld. Join our campaign by using #releasethereport on social media.

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A Baylor Mod had this to say -

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Les Miles is a guy to keep an eye on. You would want him to bring (or keep) an offensive coordinator running the Baylor system.
-- 62 years old
-- LSU tired of his top 10 recruiting classes and 80% winning pct
-- Christian faith important to him
-- good connections in Louisiana and Texas

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Let's call it informed speculation. Results are what matters ultimately and Miles has produced while winning and staying afoul from NCAA in the process.

In the SEC he feels his style is most suited to win. Big12 is a different league and I bet he would adapt. Special teams and defense have been consistently good. His kids love him. 10-2 is his average record.

When I first heard his name, I had a lukewarm response but if you could get 5 good years from him... He would recruit extremely well and have the program in great shape when he left.

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More news to break?

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Had two people in the CFB business recently tell me they heard more was coming on Baylor. Second report this week.

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I'll never understand the whole 'wait two years to come forward' thing.

Granted, I'm also not a girl that has allegedly been raped.

If Miles gets fired this year, I don't think that is all that far fetched.

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Aren't you the guy who was crowing about how wonderful an individual Art Briles is, based on your very limited interaction with him? Have fun eating that shite sandwich

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Have you read through this entire thread? I've been saying Baylor needs the hammer dropped on them.

I know one side of him, yeah. Obviously everyone can be different behind closed doors. Everyone a part of this is a PoS.

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Really? I would think at Baylor that the victims would probably be scared that Art Briles and Ken Starr would actually hold them down to get raped again if they tried to come forward

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Wasn't my point. It's why not come forward when everyone else does instead of after people are fired.

Like I already said, many people think they'd do one thing, but when actually put in a certain situation, doing what you think you would is typically a lot harder than you would think.

I could never begin to comprehend the psyche of a possible rape victim.

Well it does pay top 10 nationally. That would be the main draw.

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I know one side of him, yeah. Obviously everyone can be different behind closed doors. Everyone a part of this is a PoS.

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OK, I'm glad you came around. You got fooled.

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FWIW - I have to give McCaigBro69 some props for changing his tune of late. You missed your chance to give him shite by a few months.

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Yeah, I'll admit. I was full blind loyalty for awhile. But I mean there's just too much evidence and too many heads rolling to believe it's just bullshite at this point.

You'd be shocked at how many friends I have, my dad included, that think this is just some media ploy by Texas and TCU to ruin Baylor.

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At some point the Waco PD, if not the DA, need to take a hit for this and fix it.

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The DA in waco was under federal investigation for awhile, not sure whatever came of that though.

The police I don't think (please correct me if I'm wrong, there are so many possible rape cases in this thing I can't remember them all) have botched this. As far as I know, every complaint that's been brought to them has been dealt with.

Elliott is in jail as is Ukwuachu. Ahmad Dixon's case is still only for god knows what, but the girl who filed charges against him in this instance had done it once before and she had later dropped them in admittance of saying she did it to get him in trouble. I know the Oakman and Chafin cases are open. Not sure on all the other ones though.

I know there are more, but I'm not sure what the legal proceedings are on stuff like the recent one who came forward after a couple of years. I'd assume that a rape kit wasn't conducted and it would be hard to charge anyone. However, I could be totally wrong.

One thing I will say, is that if you get arrested by waco pd for anything and you're a Baylor student, they tell Baylor and you have to go to a discipline board. I got a PI in college and had to go through all that crap.