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re: Am I the only one that thinks the NFL handled the injury nearly flawlessly last night?
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:10 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:10 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
I don't watch the NFL. I started seeing posts about the ordeal on Facebook and switched over to see what was happening.
I then came here, and people on this board were calling for the commissioner to be fired over his handling of the situation.
I suspect they also call for coaches to be fired mid-game.
I then came here, and people on this board were calling for the commissioner to be fired over his handling of the situation.
I suspect they also call for coaches to be fired mid-game.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:17 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
I agree. This was, unfortunately, a situation that hasn't been seen in the NFL in decades...maybe ever. There really isn't a "playbook" for how to properly handle. Of course, we, unfortunately, live in a world where vapid virtue signaling is pervasive and everyone with a "voice" is fighting to out-outrage one another and prove they are the most virtuous.
It's not uncommon to see serious injuries (often neck injuries) occur where the game comes to a grinding halt while medical personnel rush to the scene and take every precaution to care for a player before, in many instances, carting him off the field. In just about everyone of those instances it is expected the game will resume thereafter.
This was obviously different. No one fully knew the gravity of the situation immediately besides (thankfully) the medical personnel. After Hamlin was loaded into the ambulance everyone was kind of dealing with the unknown. Was he going to be ok? Did he give a "thumbs up" like you have with many guys being carted off the field following a neck injury? What should we do? Those neck injuries are always scary and sobering to the players...but we've always resumed play right after. Is this situation different? No one was quite sure as to what was the "right call". Obviously, it became clear pretty quickly Buffalo's players/coaches were not in the mindset necessary to move forward and the game was postponed. Just because the general public didn't find out that information until much later doesn't mean that discussion with league officials wasn't happening much earlier.
I think everyone did about the best they could given the circumstances. No one forced the players to hurry back on the field. Both coaches recognized the mindset of their teams and made the decision quickly to get them off the field and out of the eyes of the fans and TV. I think everyone was waiting to see if there was going to be word from medical personnel indicating the situation wasn't as critical as initially presented and that the player was going to be ok. Once it became clear the medical personnel could not give that answer in a timely manner everyone involved felt it was best to postpone the game and the decision was made.
In 1996 umpire John McSherry collapsed on the field in Cincinnati at the home opener. Medical personnel rushed to the field. The umpires and players were clearly shaken. Eventually, McSherry was loaded into an ambulance and taken to a hospital where it was confirmed what everyone on the field already knew, he died on the field. There was confusion as to what to do going forward and it was OVER AN HOUR after he collapsed that the game was officially postponed. Social media didn't exist at that time, nor did the virtue signaling Olympics. Yet, I don't recall MLB being crucified (other than by Marge Schott) for taking over an hour to cancel the game.
It's not uncommon to see serious injuries (often neck injuries) occur where the game comes to a grinding halt while medical personnel rush to the scene and take every precaution to care for a player before, in many instances, carting him off the field. In just about everyone of those instances it is expected the game will resume thereafter.
This was obviously different. No one fully knew the gravity of the situation immediately besides (thankfully) the medical personnel. After Hamlin was loaded into the ambulance everyone was kind of dealing with the unknown. Was he going to be ok? Did he give a "thumbs up" like you have with many guys being carted off the field following a neck injury? What should we do? Those neck injuries are always scary and sobering to the players...but we've always resumed play right after. Is this situation different? No one was quite sure as to what was the "right call". Obviously, it became clear pretty quickly Buffalo's players/coaches were not in the mindset necessary to move forward and the game was postponed. Just because the general public didn't find out that information until much later doesn't mean that discussion with league officials wasn't happening much earlier.
I think everyone did about the best they could given the circumstances. No one forced the players to hurry back on the field. Both coaches recognized the mindset of their teams and made the decision quickly to get them off the field and out of the eyes of the fans and TV. I think everyone was waiting to see if there was going to be word from medical personnel indicating the situation wasn't as critical as initially presented and that the player was going to be ok. Once it became clear the medical personnel could not give that answer in a timely manner everyone involved felt it was best to postpone the game and the decision was made.
In 1996 umpire John McSherry collapsed on the field in Cincinnati at the home opener. Medical personnel rushed to the field. The umpires and players were clearly shaken. Eventually, McSherry was loaded into an ambulance and taken to a hospital where it was confirmed what everyone on the field already knew, he died on the field. There was confusion as to what to do going forward and it was OVER AN HOUR after he collapsed that the game was officially postponed. Social media didn't exist at that time, nor did the virtue signaling Olympics. Yet, I don't recall MLB being crucified (other than by Marge Schott) for taking over an hour to cancel the game.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:18 pm to multicampus
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I suspect they also call for coaches to be fired mid-game.
No. Everyone in the stadium did the right thing. But no one knows how the league was handling it and made assumption.
Again, according to the NFL, the 5 minute break idea didn't come from them.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:20 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
Joe burrow picked up a ball and made a few throws. Diggs started rallying the troops which we saw but also Lisa Saunders reported the same thing about Diggs.
Nfl trying to cover their tracks now so they don’t cross the woke crowd.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:21 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
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The '5 minutes to warm up' thing is also a confirmed lie.
i disagree. troy vincent carefully wording statements to cover their arse.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:21 pm to TBubba
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Nfl trying to cover their tracks now so they don’t cross the woke crowd.
Do you feel like your corn flakes are a little too woke some mornings?
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:22 pm to sicboy
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No. Everyone in the stadium did the right thing. But no one knows how the league was handling it and made assumption.
Again, according to the NFL, the 5 minute break idea didn't come from them.
I was referencing the people here; not anyone involved with the actual situation.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:24 pm to TBubba
Many people are whining that it took "too long" to cancel the game. That's secondary. Health and safety of the players is first and foremost and NFL Health and Safety protocols are the only reason this event has a chance for happy ending.
This post was edited on 1/3/23 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:25 pm to Tigerfan1274
Sounds like ESPN is calling the NFL on it's bullshite?
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:33 pm to sicboy
ESPN saying they refrained from speculation all night is such a crock of shite. All they’ve been doing since then is speculating because there’s only been like 5 unique pieces of actual information to come out since he went down.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:35 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
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People on twitter are just trying to one up each other on who can be the most outraged at the NFL.
I’ve avoided twitter for today for this reason alone. Place is insufferable.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:39 pm to sicboy
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Also, the NFL said it never issued that "take a 5 minute break before resuming play" direction, so I'm not sure where that came from.
Joe Buck said it several times and saying they were told by the league. I doubt Joe is in direct contact with a league official while in the booth, but an ESPN production person may be. Joe is a veteran at this so I doubt he knowingly spouts off bad info, but it’s likely that there was some misunderstanding between Joe, the production and the league. I think the most sensible scenario is that the refs or an on-site league official, perhaps at the behest of the coaches, said let’s take 5 to get our bearings, assess the situation and probably get on the horn with the head office until we can figure out what the F to do.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:43 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
My only problem with the NFL was the 5 minute warm up thing. The fact he's even got a fighting chance is because of great planning.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:45 pm to sicboy
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Sounds like ESPN is calling the NFL on it's bullshite?
troy vincent said there was no talk of the 5 minute warm up.
well troy, nfl employees were relaying protocol, why was there no talk of not following protocol and relaying that info.
in fact, were you actually doing fricking anything during this time while you exec fricks are stealing 50 million dollar contracts?
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:54 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
Agreed. The other thing I thought about was logistics around the stadium and general area. You have 70k people exiting the stadium two hours before you were expecting them to. I assume police, traffic guards, road closure or traffic light coordination, etc etc needed to be immobilized before announcing the game was cancelled.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 2:13 pm to St Augustine
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the part that seemed the most off to me was the long running SVP and Clark emotional dialogue where SVP kept wanting to go in on the nfl potentially playing the game without really knowing what they actually wanted to do.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 2:28 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
Yeah, given the magnitude and stage of the situation, it seems like they did a pretty solid job.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 2:35 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
It was apparent this game wasn't going to be restarted. I believe it was 66 minutes before the NFL made the announcement. Looked pretty obvious to me the players/coaches made that decision for the NFL.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 2:54 pm to rintintin
I saw nothing handled wrong last night. Sometimes life can't be resolved in 10 minutes. I was in medical field for 42 years.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 7:40 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
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Am I the only one that thinks the NFL handled the injury nearly flawlessly last night?
Nope.
Their response and protocols saved Hamlin's life.
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