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Almost Mid-Season MLB Awards
Posted on 6/27/17 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 6/27/17 at 12:24 pm
So most teams have played about 75 games this year so while we aren't exactly at the mid way point, we are close enough. Let's discuss the awards for the 1st half
NL:
MVP: Paul Goldschmidt
Cy Young: Max Scherzer
ROY: Cody Bellinger
AL:
MVP: Aaron Judge
Cy Young: Chris Sale
ROY: Aaron Judge
NL:
MVP: Paul Goldschmidt
Cy Young: Max Scherzer
ROY: Cody Bellinger
AL:
MVP: Aaron Judge
Cy Young: Chris Sale
ROY: Aaron Judge
This post was edited on 6/27/17 at 12:25 pm
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Posted on 6/27/17 at 12:26 pm to WestCoastAg
Bellinger and Judge have been balling
Posted on 6/27/17 at 12:29 pm to BCMCubs
When's the last time we've had the same player win both MVP and ROY?
This post was edited on 6/27/17 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 6/27/17 at 12:32 pm to WestCoastAg
Ichiro, 2001
Posted on 6/27/17 at 12:33 pm to WestCoastAg
Your list is perfect. No one else in either leagues has an argument against the guys you listed
Posted on 6/27/17 at 12:34 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:
When's the last time we've had the same player win both MVP and ROY?
Ichiro? But he was hardly the normal rookie.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 12:34 pm to LSUBoo
When is the last time before that? I don't count him.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 12:35 pm to Lee to Toliver
Damn. And even he was coming into his age 28 season that year
This post was edited on 6/27/17 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 6/27/17 at 12:35 pm to WestCoastAg
Goldschmidt has been amazing but Ryan Zimmerman hasn't gotten nearly enough recognition for the year he's had. He's probably my #2 for the NL MVP at the moment. I agree with all your picks
Posted on 6/27/17 at 12:35 pm to iamAG
Fred Lynn, in 1974.
Those are the only two
Those are the only two
Posted on 6/27/17 at 12:36 pm to WestCoastAg
Technically Ichiro in 2001 but it's sort of ludicrous to classify him as a rookie when you consider the fact that he was 27 years and a 7x batting champion in Japan. The last real rookie to win MVP and ROY was Fred Lynn with the Red Sox.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 12:36 pm to BenDover
Zimmerman has been great but I don't know if he'd get my #2 vote. I think that would go to Corey Seager
Posted on 6/27/17 at 12:39 pm to Lee to Toliver
quote:damn
Fred Lynn, in 1974.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 12:41 pm to WestCoastAg
Worst bullpen - Texas
Posted on 6/27/17 at 12:43 pm to WestCoastAg
Outside of walks, Zimmerman is better than Seager in literally every offensive category. I know Seager is better defensively and plays a premium position, but I just don't see how that could overcome how much better Zimmy has been offensively.
He's leading Seager by more than 100pts in OPS and has him by 46 points in average. I'm sure you're fixing to throw about 6 sabermetric stats at me that I have no clue about, but the OPS and average being that much greater is pretty telling.
All in all, they're both having great seasons, Zimmy is just having a better one to this point in my eyes.
He's leading Seager by more than 100pts in OPS and has him by 46 points in average. I'm sure you're fixing to throw about 6 sabermetric stats at me that I have no clue about, but the OPS and average being that much greater is pretty telling.
All in all, they're both having great seasons, Zimmy is just having a better one to this point in my eyes.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 12:45 pm to BenDover
Zimmerman has been better at the plate. Seager is just having a really good season at the plate as well and is playing a premium position competently and is 2nd in the NL in WAR
This post was edited on 6/27/17 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 6/27/17 at 12:48 pm to WestCoastAg
WAR should compliment your argument, not supplement it. It's a decent stat but Seager being .5 better in WAR doesn't overcome the difference between the two at the plate.
It's really all a moot point because Goldschmidt is running away with the MVP so far.
It's really all a moot point because Goldschmidt is running away with the MVP so far.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 12:48 pm to WestCoastAg
No he's not. Seager should definitely not be 2
This post was edited on 6/27/17 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 6/27/17 at 12:50 pm to Bench McElroy
Ichiro would have like 9,000 hits if had been in MLB his whole career
Posted on 6/27/17 at 12:52 pm to BenDover
quote:fwiw xwOBA suggests that Zimmerman has been playing over his head a little bit at the plate, he has a xwOBA of 405 and an actual wOBA of over 420, and Seager has been underperforming, a xwOBA of 410 and an actual wOBA of under 390
overcome the difference between the two at the plate.
quote:it supports my argument that Seagers overall level of play is a reason why I would put him #2
WAR should compliment your argument, not supplement it.
This post was edited on 6/27/17 at 12:53 pm
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