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re: After yesterday, who is the Heisman Trophy frontrunner?

Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:55 pm to
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:55 pm to
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Connor Halliday from Wazzu is leading the nation in passing, fyi...FWIW.

He has the highest completion %, most yards and most Tds.



He also plays in Leach's system.



And Andre Ware played in the new Houston run n' shoot.

And Detmer played in BYU's revolutionary passing system under Norm Chow that produced QBs.

And Ron Dayne played in Wisconsin's run first-run heavy system.

I'm not saying Halliday should be Heisman front-runner...

I'm just saying back in the day, he WOULD be a front-runner.

And he should be in the conversation, but he's not...that's how low the bar has sunk...everyone is so lazy, they don't want to investigate players not on the top teams.

Now everyone, including everyone on this board...just looks at the best player on the #1 or Top 5 team...and mostly it's just the #1 team.

So in essence, we've whittled down the Heisman to "not the best player in college football" but the "best player on the #1 ranked team before Heisman voting."
This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 12:57 pm
Posted by MikeyFL
Las Vegas, NV
Member since Sep 2010
9591 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 1:23 pm to
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Melvin Gordon.



I like Gordon and think he deserves more attention.

However, every Wisconsin running back suffers from the perception (fair or not) that they're interchangeable and could all have 6.0 ypc averages.

As much as I dislike Oregon, I'm actually at peace with the idea of Mariota winning the Heisman, especially if Oregon wins the Pac-12. This year's Oregon team isn't as good as previous years' teams. In particular, the offensive line is shaky, and their defense is prone to having major lapses. Without Mariota, I really wonder what Oregon's record would be this year.
This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 1:24 pm
Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2013
8638 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 2:04 pm to
In my opinion, I think everyone that has seen Gordon play understands that he is in a completely different mold than your traditional Wisconsin tailback. He is an absolute game breaker.
This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 2:06 pm
Posted by lilaznfish123
Arlington, VA
Member since Sep 2013
618 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:00 pm to
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As much as I dislike Oregon, I'm actually at peace with the idea of Mariota winning the Heisman, especially if Oregon wins the Pac-12. This year's Oregon team isn't as good as previous years' teams. In particular, the offensive line is shaky, and their defense is prone to having major lapses. Without Mariota, I really wonder what Oregon's record would be this year.





The race should have been between Mariota and Gurley. That would've been fun to watch. Frick you NCAA
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 8:54 pm to
The Big 10 isn't going to have a Heisman winner. Not when Oregon pasted the best defense for 46 points.
Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2013
8638 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 8:59 pm to
Never said they would have a Heisman winner.
Posted by goldenbadger08
Sorting Out MSB BS Since 2011
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:16 pm to
Gordon > Mariota
Posted by mm2316
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
Member since Aug 2010
6942 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:21 pm to
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In particular, the offensive line is shaky, and their defense is prone to having major lapses.

While I do agree for the most part, the O-line has looked light years better with Jake Fisher back and their other week 1 starting OT Andre Yruretagoyena is close to returning. The defense has even been playing better the past few weeks. They are starting to play their best ball at the right time.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:23 pm to
I'd rather have Mariota.
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