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re: Aaron Hernandez no longer a murderer
Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:17 pm to StrongSafety
Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:17 pm to StrongSafety
Me too, so that money could then go to the victim's family.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:34 pm to the_watcher
Would the amount of time and money it takes to try the civil case if Hernandez were guilty in criminal court be the same as the amount of time and money it takes now? Would the amount be the same?
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:12 pm to airfernando
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You don't understand the implications. This leads to Hernandez's family being able to get money he would have been owed if he had never committed the crime or been found guilty. It matters a lot in civil court,
you're probably wrong.
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Hernandez lost his grievance, and his contract would likely prevent him from collecting any of the money now, despite the lack of a conviction on his record. According to Paragraph 35 (c) of Hernandez’s contract, which was obtained by the Globe, “Player represents and warrants to the Club that . . . no circumstances exist that would prevent Player’s continuing availability to the Club for the duration of the Contract.” Article 4.9 (a) of the NFL’s collective bargaining agreement also states that “any player who . . . is unavailable to the team due to conduct by him that results in his incarceration . . . may be required to forfeit signing bonus . . . for each League Year in which a Forfeitable Breach occurs.”
Even though Hernandez was found not guilty of the 2012 double murder, the Patriots can reasonably argue that Hernandez didn’t represent his reckless behavior during that time, and that when he signed the contract he was headed down the path of incarceration and unavailability.
“Just because he’s legally not guilty doesn’t mean that he didn’t actually do anything,” Corry said. “Maybe he didn’t do the murder, but was he an accessory? He was going to end up standing trial anyway, which would have triggered this stuff. And given how much he was going off the rails, who’s to say he wouldn’t have done something between Lloyd and now where he would have imploded?”
I guess I'll just need to keep posting that article and excerpts til people get the message.
#1 Hernandez filed a grievance against the Patriots that was settled in 2014 with the Patriots getting cap space. This likely means that they got off the hook for something regarding his pay (i.e. they won).
#2 Settlements typically include catch-all language preventing further claims on the points settled.
#3 The CBA allows for bonus forfeiture and his contracts allowed for removal of guarantees for breach of contract
Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:48 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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It definitely matters for the civil case, which is why Hernandez killed himself in the first place
You first said the quote above, wrongly insinuating Hernandez killed himself as part of some master plan to get his conviction vacated thus awarding money from his estate (which is currently worth zero dollars) to his family. Again, any money his estate garners in the future would still be lost in the impending civil trial.
Now you say
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Would the amount of time and money it takes to try the civil case if Hernandez were guilty in criminal court be the same as the amount of time and money it takes now? Would the amount be the same?
So after being shown how ignorant your original claim was, you are now insinuating that he committed suicide in order to make it slightly harder on the attorneys of the family of the man he murdered in court? That's his grand plan now? Do you not understand how easy it is to win a civil case in which the defendant was already found guilty in a criminal court? Did you even read the article you just linked? The quote below is from the article YOU LINKED.
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If Hernandez committed the murders, then there were reasons he wouldn’t be available. But if legally speaking he didn’t commit those murders, the Patriots may owe his estate the $3.25 million -- and the victims’ families could get it.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:54 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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It definitely matters for the civil case, which is why Hernandez killed himself in the first place
He dicked over the victims loved ones but did the tax payers of Mass. a huge favor.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 4:00 pm to RollTide1987
He still killed people so he is still a murderer...
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