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re: Aaron Hernandez no longer a murderer
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:48 am to bbap
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:48 am to bbap
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So basically he killed himself so the Patriots would have to pay his wife?
From his suicide note: "YOU’RE Rich"
This was wildly speculated as the reason he committed suicide during his appeal process. She will get bonuses and guaranteed money that was withheld, but will not see the majority of the contract. His estate is worthless right now and the Lloyd family s coming after it. It would have been best for him had he waited until that civil case was settled and the Lloyd family had taken a settlement from the selling of his mansion, IMO. His kids and fiance will see some, but I imagine fees and the civil case will get a good portion of what the Patriots are forced to pay out as well.
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:50 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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It definitely matters for the civil case,
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:54 am to AwesomeSauce
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:55 am to Jester
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I'm sure the Patriots will find a legal way not to.
I would hope
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:16 am to RollTide1987
So does he suit up this fall? Still hasn't been suspended by NFL.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:21 am to RollTide1987
Again, who cares?
Nobody cares if the Pats have to pay his estate. They're a scumbag organization that benefited from his act.
He murdered people while employed by the Patriots. Murdered people!
Are we going to cry over Penn State having to pay settlements?
Nobody cares if the Pats have to pay his estate. They're a scumbag organization that benefited from his act.
He murdered people while employed by the Patriots. Murdered people!
Are we going to cry over Penn State having to pay settlements?
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:43 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Nobody cares if the Pats have to pay his estate. They're a scumbag organization that benefited from his act.
You seem bitter by their success. Why you mad?
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:44 am to RollTide1987
i guarantee that his lawyer talked him into this (or was at least complicit in some way).
if proven, his lawyer should face criminal charges.
if proven, his lawyer should face criminal charges.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:47 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Penn State - Joe Pa covered up what Sandusky was doing.
Patriots- Cut him the moment his murder charges came up, and didn't cover up anything.
I'm sure you hate them cause they are better than your team but don't compare the situations
Patriots- Cut him the moment his murder charges came up, and didn't cover up anything.
I'm sure you hate them cause they are better than your team but don't compare the situations
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:51 am to Byron Bojangles III
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his daughter and fiance who know might have access to 6 million dollars
Probably not.
Boston Globe story - 4/20/17
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But the likely answer is simple: No, he is not. Even without a conviction on the books, Hernandez almost certainly was in breach of his contract.
And it’s a moot point, anyway. NFL Players Association records show that the Patriots and Hernandez settled a grievance that Hernandez filed in 2014. The settlement gave the Patriots a salary cap credit of $1.184 million, indicating a Patriots win. Additionally, according to Joel Corry — an attorney, salary cap expert, and former NFL agent — grievance settlements almost always tie up all loose ends.
“Typically when there’s a settlement, there’s some sort of catch-all language: ‘This will resolve all claims known or which could be known in the future,’?” Corry said. “I haven’t seen too many settlements which don’t have some type of form of that kind of language.”
This is similar language that prevented the NFLPA from bringing collusion charges against the NFL. The NFL had similar language releasing any claims in the CBA that was ratified, so when the "uncapped year" stuff came out, the NFLPA couldn't proceed with the claims.
Now they might be entitled to his pension (assuming he named his wife/girlfriend or daughter as beneficiary).
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However, Hernandez will be able to draw an NFL pension. Article 53.6 of the CBA states that for players who began their careers before 2012, only three credited seasons are necessary to be vested in the league’s retirement plan (now it’s five years). Hernandez played three seasons before his arrest, so he will be eligible for the minimum pension payments. It is unclear whom Hernandez named as his beneficiary in case of death.
This post was edited on 5/9/17 at 11:55 am
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:51 am to RollTide1987
And yet you have time to start a thread on TD
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:52 am to SuperSaiyanBlue
Yeah that was a pretty terrible comparison.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:58 am to TechDawg2007
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agreeing that an ancient Massachusetts law should be applied here.
Reminds me of Good Will Hunting where he was citing very old laws to try to get out of a conviction.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 12:54 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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his daughter and fiance who know might have access to 6 million dollars
Which should rightfully go to the family of the people he murdered.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 12:59 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Yeah...who really cares?
Conviction serves one purpose - to punish.
Dead people can't be punished.
the patriots do, they care a whole hell of a lot because now that he isn't convicted, they owe him (the family) the money they didn't have to pay him as a criminal. not sure how much it was but it wasn't chump change, something like $800,000 roster bonus or something they now owe the family
Posted on 5/9/17 at 1:05 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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It definitely matters for the civil case, which is why Hernandez killed himself in the first place
It doesn't prevent the family from a civil suit (see OJ Simpson). It also probably prevents Hernandez's family from collecting life insurance.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 1:28 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:You don't understand the implications. This leads to Hernandez's family being able to get money he would have been owed if he had never committed the crime or been found guilty. It matters a lot in civil court, not to mention it matters to people who want emotional closure. Closure doesn't mean much to people who aren't involved, but it does matter to some people.
Yeah...who really cares?
Conviction serves one purpose - to punish.
Dead people can't be punished.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 1:32 pm to airfernando
All this means is the lloyd fam is rich
Posted on 5/9/17 at 1:35 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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It definitely matters for the civil case, which is why Hernandez killed himself in the first place
So many wanna be lawyers appear every time something legal affects the sports world. Stop repeating what you read on memes while scrolling through your facebook feed and actually look into the situation.
His estate is worth zero dollars. To be convicted of murder, which he was, a jury has to convict beyond a reasonable doubt. Know what the statute is for a civil case? 50%. Meaning if a civil trial resulted in a finding that's its 50.000000000001% likely that Hernandez is guilty, he loses the civil case. OJ Simpson lost his civil case to the tune of $33.5 million dollars. AND HE WAS FOUND INNOCENT in his criminal trial.
Here are 3 links repeating everything I'm saying which took a total of 8 seconds to find via google. USA TODAY Sports Illustrated NYT
Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:16 pm to Byron Bojangles III
I hope the patriots have to pay him what he is LEGALLY owed
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