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re: 2018 Super Bowl...who gets it?
Posted on 5/8/14 at 4:19 pm to LL012697
Posted on 5/8/14 at 4:19 pm to LL012697
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I don't understand why people assume the weather will keep Minnesota from hosting a Super Bowl. Detroit hosted a Super Bowl in the last decade.
Detroit.
And Detroit did a solid job that year. I agree that Minny could get it, but NO, despite the lights issue, is still a great option too
Posted on 5/8/14 at 4:20 pm to VOLhalla
So you're arguing semantics rather than the actual meaning behind your posts? Sounds like you've conceded defeat if that's the case.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 4:26 pm to Patron Saint
Asking if you honestly believe that the word "very" is meaningless is arguing semantics. Pointing out that you misquoted is a grammatical and honesty issue.
If you save up the money I would recommend going to some of these Super Bowls. Seattle, Denver, and Minneapolis are all awesome cities, even in February.
If you save up the money I would recommend going to some of these Super Bowls. Seattle, Denver, and Minneapolis are all awesome cities, even in February.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 4:28 pm to SpartyGator
I imagine the entire discussion about the lights lasting just long enough at the owners meeting for someone to ask "What's been done to make sure that won't happen again" and then someone saying "We did ____."
Posted on 5/8/14 at 4:28 pm to VOLhalla
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Asking if you honestly believe that the word "very" is meaningless is arguing semantics.
So you admit it.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 4:29 pm to SpartyGator
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And Detroit did a solid job that year
Wasn't implying they didn't. Just that if people are willing to travel to Detroit for a February Super Bowl, they'd surely travel to Minnesota for a February Super Bowl
Posted on 5/8/14 at 4:32 pm to Patron Saint
Admit that one of my posts argued semantics? Sure, one of my posts argued semantics. That has no bearing on the rest of the discussion.
Do you think that someone asking a semantics question means they have lost or conceded the argument? (This is a logic question btw.)
Do you think that someone asking a semantics question means they have lost or conceded the argument? (This is a logic question btw.)
Posted on 5/8/14 at 4:35 pm to LL012697
Plenty of people will travel to any major American city, even northern cities, for the Super Bowl.
And just in case you weren't here before the crazy bitching started, Minneapolis has already hosted a successful Super Bowl.
And just in case you weren't here before the crazy bitching started, Minneapolis has already hosted a successful Super Bowl.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 4:36 pm to VOLhalla
When someone starts arguing semantics it's usually because they are unable to make an actual point.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 4:36 pm to VOLhalla
quote:And New Orleans has hosted 10.
And just in case you weren't here before the crazy bitching started, Minneapolis has already hosted a successful Super Bowl.
This post was edited on 5/8/14 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 5/8/14 at 4:36 pm to LL012697
Oh, i know
Just adding to what you said
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Just adding to what you said
Posted on 5/8/14 at 4:38 pm to VOLhalla
i mean you are sitting here arguing that by somehow saying the word very to imply some vague emphasis on time is meaningful to you somehow not being wrong and contradictory.
You said what you said, you were called on it. End of discussion about semantics and the impact of very.
Yes those cities may very well get their second chance to host, however it will not come as frequently as NOLA/Miami for the numerous reasons outlined in this 9 page thread.
You said what you said, you were called on it. End of discussion about semantics and the impact of very.
Yes those cities may very well get their second chance to host, however it will not come as frequently as NOLA/Miami for the numerous reasons outlined in this 9 page thread.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 4:42 pm to Patron Saint
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When someone starts arguing semantics it's usually because they are unable to make an actual point.
And sometimes they ask a question of semantics because they were curious what the answer would be. I'm still curious if you think the word "very" has no meaning.
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And New Orleans has hosted 10.
Minneapolis has hosted a Super Bowl and N.O. has hosted ten. Does the fact that Minneapolis has hosted a Super Bowl in the past tend to make you think that they can do so successfully in the future?
Posted on 5/8/14 at 4:47 pm to VOLhalla
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I'm still curious if you think the word "very" has no meaning.
I think the word "very" is inconsequential to the meaning of anyone's argument in this thread. I think you know that but you're being unreasonable.
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Does the fact that Minneapolis has hosted a Super Bowl in the past tend to make you think that they can do so successfully in the future?
I don't think Minneapolis hosting a Super Bowl 26 years before 2018 in a different stadium will foreshadow in any way how well they can host in 2018. That being said, I don't doubt that they could pull it off, but I also wouldn't put them in the same class of host cities as New Orleans and Miami.
ETA: I'm done talking about the importance of the word "very" because it is a stupid conversation.
This post was edited on 5/8/14 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 5/8/14 at 4:51 pm to Patron Saint
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I don't think Minneapolis hosting a Super Bowl 26 years before 2018 in a different stadium will foreshadow in any way how well they can host in 2018. That being said, I don't doubt that they could pull it off, but I also wouldn't put them in the same class of host cities as New Orleans and Miami.
This just about sums it up perfectly. And to add to that. New cities that host will be ones with shiny new stadiums, like SF. As long as they have a controlled climate and are a desirable tourist destination they will get consideration.
I can tell you this. These cities will likely never host:
Chicago
Baltimore
Cleveland
Green Bay
Charlotte
KC
Nashville
Buffalo
Cincinnati
Pittsburgh
Oakland
Posted on 5/8/14 at 4:51 pm to Geauxld Finger
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i mean you are sitting here arguing that by somehow saying the word very to imply some vague emphasis on time is meaningful to you somehow not being wrong and contradictory.
You said what you said, you were called on it. End of discussion about semantics and the impact of very.
Let's go through this step by step:
1. I said that it will be a long time before New Orleans hosts again.
2. Someone asked if someone posted it will be a "very long time" before New Orleans will host again.
3. I stated that no one said that. I said so because that's correct. "Very long time" =/= "long time". The only way it could be even close to the exact same is if the word "very" was without meaning, which I don't agree with.
4. You stated I "literally" said "very long time." Oh the irony of using literally.
5. I denied this because it's incorrect.
6. You "caught" me in this "contradiction" of correctness and, perhaps, think that I have conceded your point by asking if you honestly thought the word "very" is meaningless.
Do you understand know how you're wrong? If you don't then honestly I don't think I'm able to help you any further.
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Yes those cities may very well get their second chance to host, however it will not come as frequently as NOLA/Miami for the numerous reasons outlined in this 9 page thread.
We actually agree here. I never said that New Orleans shouldn't host any more Super Bowls, merely that it will be a long time (by my estimates maybe 10 years?) before they host again because the NFL will move the Super Bowl to other venues for a while.
But because I don't agree that N.O. is the only place to properly hold the Super Bowl I'm basically the devil here.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 4:53 pm to VOLhalla
let it be known that the word very in terms of time signifies 10+ years of time measurement.
enough about very and its uses
enough about very and its uses
Posted on 5/8/14 at 4:54 pm to Patron Saint
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I don't think Minneapolis hosting a Super Bowl 26 years before 2018 in a different stadium will foreshadow in any way how well they can host in 2018. That being said, I don't doubt that they could pull it off, but I also wouldn't put them in the same class of host cities as New Orleans and Miami.
I think it, at least, suggests that they have the infrastructure in place to host and that the weather won't prevent people from going.
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ETA: I'm done talking about the importance of the word "very" because it is a stupid conversation.
Agreed, I'll drop it.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 4:57 pm to VOLhalla
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that the weather won't prevent people from going
see that is where i do not agree. In this past SB you had two cold weather squads. Had it been two warm weather teams, I don't think you get as many of the overflow fans that come just for the party. I just can't see many people justifying that to trudge around in snow and sub freezing temps for 3-5 days, especially from warm weather cities. Cold weather doesn't really bother me, but most people in the south bitch when it drops below 60.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 5:03 pm to Geauxld Finger
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see that is where i do not agree. In this past SB you had two cold weather squads. Had it been two warm weather teams, I don't think you get as many of the overflow fans that come just for the party. I just can't see many people justifying that to trudge around in snow and sub freezing temps for 3-5 days, especially from warm weather cities. Cold weather doesn't really bother me, but most people in the south bitch when it drops below 60.
I see where you're coming from, but I've lived in the north and a lot of people there embrace the cold, especially winter sports. For a lot of people the weather is a positive, not a negative. I also read somewhere that tv ratings can increase in bad weather because people like watching clusterfricks. I wonder if anyone has actually looked at the total number of tourists who traveled to party but not actually go to the game
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