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2017 US Open at Erin Hills - Looking Ahead

Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:46 am
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18521 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:46 am
Yea, Oakmont in 2016 is next, but who cares. I just played Erin Hills and figured I'd share my experience. This is a bit wordy, but my flight was delayed and I was bored in the airport.

There are a lot of similarities between Chambers Bay and Erin Hills...tons of fescue, rolling terrain, undulating greens, new course, and built to host the US Open. So, obviously it's going to be compared (unfairly) to Chambers Bay.

The course was in incredible shape and it was the most well run club/resort I've seen outside of Augusta. They're only open from May-October. In preparation for the open, they will close a month early in 2016 and not open to the public until after the US Open in 2017. They're pulling out all the stops to make sure that it's in the best shape possible. The greens are A4 bentgrass, so they'll be in much better shape than the fescue/poa mess at Chambers Bay.

I've always wondered what it would be like to play in US Open conditions and at Erin Hills I got about as close as I ever will to doing that. Last week they did a mock US Open and had the course setup as if they were hosting it this year. That included tee/pin placements, rough length, and green speed. The only thing they didn't do was dry it out like the USGA will do. The greens were running at 12, which is the max they allow because the winds will start moving stationary balls on the greens. I played on Sunday, so I got to shoot at all the Sunday pin placements.

They expect the US Open to play between 7400-7600 yards depending on conditions. I played it at just under 7400 yards. The ball rolled so well in the fairways that it played a lot shorter IMO. The pins were tough, but fair. They can definitely move a couple closer to slopes/false fronts to make them more difficult. I ended up shooting an 81 with 2 birdies, 5 bogies, and 3 doubles.

Here are some pics. The overall experience was incredible. The caddie program is the best I've seen. Two of the caddies are from Augusta and spend their summers up there. Our caddie came from Bay Hill and another one we met caddied at Inverness. We stayed in the lodge and they took great care of us. If you ever have a chance to go to Erin Hills, I suggest you do it. We played Whistling Straits and stayed in Kohler on the same trip, and while the Straits course was better, the overall experience at Erin Hills blew it away.

Entrance


Look back across the marsh at the Lodge from #1 green


#3 478yd Par 4 - They are very generous with landing areas on longer holes(outside of #8)...which is nice.


#9 165yd Par 3 - Relatively easy hole, but that back right pin is going to be tough on Sunday


#12 460yd Par 4 - Slightly blind approach to a green that's in a bowl. Anything short should roll right on and funnel to the hole...Of course, I pulled it left of the green and made double from the fescue


#14 Green (600yd Par 5) - The sun drowns out the pic, but we spent about 15-20 minutes around this green hitting random shots to watch the ball funnel around. This one should be fun during the US Open.


#18 (660yd Par 5) View from the Fairway - I wish I would have taken a pic of this pin. It's going to be tough on Sunday. I put a 9 iron to about 10 feet, but if the greens were dried out like they will be, it would have been 30 yards down a hill, over the green, in the rough or fescue. It should be interesting to see how the players attack this hole/pin on Sunday.


Panoramic shot looking back from #15 tee


Nice view from the patio at the Pub after the round


My scorecard



No 3 putts was a win, but it was tough to consistently hit the greens when I was hitting 3 wood, 3 iron, and 4 iron in to a lot of holes. I was playing pretty well going into the round and left really happy with my 81.
This post was edited on 6/26/15 at 8:49 am
Posted by iheartlsu
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
27725 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:48 am to
thats hot
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42578 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:55 am to
USGA almost never plays anything other than a par 70. Which two holes do you think they'll turn into par 4s?
Posted by RollDatRoll
Who Dat. Roll Tide.
Member since Dec 2010
12245 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 9:00 am to
quote:

Yea, Oakmont in 2016 is next, but who cares


I do. Oakmont is awesome.
Posted by TheMightyTerrier
Member since Nov 2010
2099 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 9:00 am to
Great stuff thanks for sharing.

Erin Hills is definitely on my list of places to play.
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10136 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 9:01 am to
So are we going to have 3 Open Championships and The Masters from now on?
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18521 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 9:01 am to
I asked my caddie and the starter the same thing and they didn't know. I'd assume 14, but the USGA specifically asked them to add on to the back tee.

I don't think they touch 18, and they won't play one side as a 34...So, 1 and 14 would be my guesses. 1 green is fairly subdued and the fairway is wide, so it could easily play as a 500+yd par 4.
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18521 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 9:06 am to
quote:

So are we going to have 3 Open Championships and The Masters from now on?


Unless the USGA obliterates Erin Hills, it plays as more of a hybrid course, IMO.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 9:16 am to
Awesome.

And hey look, it's green.
Posted by TN_Tigers
West Tennessee
Member since Feb 2013
7193 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 9:20 am to
I'm ready for this course and also Winged Foot in 2020
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10136 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 9:22 am to
Looking at the future sites. I'm glad to see they aren't giving up on traditional US Open setups.
Posted by EastNastySwag
Member since Dec 2014
5978 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 9:23 am to
Plenty of time to bitch about this course. I am sure the media hacks will bitch about the location of this course, lack of pampered media center, etc.
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18521 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 9:33 am to
I'm sure they will.

It looked like the main clubhouse will be turned in to the lockerroom. They'll probably use the lodge as a media area.

I asked about lodging and they claimed that within a 25 mile radius there's enough lodging for 50,000 attendees. Several B&B's and homes have already rented themselves out to pros. Milwaukee is 45 minutes away and isn't a terrible drive, so I'm sure most fans will stay there.

Kohler is just over an hour away. I bet a bunch of people will try to go play Whistling Straits/Blackwolf Run, then head over and watch the US Open.
This post was edited on 6/26/15 at 9:34 am
Posted by CHiPs25
ATL
Member since Apr 2014
2903 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 9:54 am to
What app are you using to log your fairways and greens hit?
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18521 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:00 am to
Nike Golf 360. I'm sure there are better ones out there, but it works.


ETA:

quote:

Looking at the future sites. I'm glad to see they aren't giving up on traditional US Open setups.


Same here. They're just trying to introduce some newer courses and styles because many believe these types of courses are the future of golf. (Though less maintenance costs, I'm sure) Plus a regular joe can play these courses.

I would compare this course more to the new Pinehurst #2 (just add trees) than Chambers Bay. I've never played Chambers Bay, though.
This post was edited on 6/26/15 at 10:04 am
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42578 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:05 am to
I think they may have actually played Torrey as a 71, so maybe they'll do that in 2017. There's really no way to change those two par 5s on the back at Torrey to 4s either.

Is Erin Hills a public or private course?
This post was edited on 6/26/15 at 10:07 am
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18521 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:11 am to
Public - $245/round


They may play it at 71. I can definitely see them playing 1 as a par 4 because it's a fairly easy par 5 and I doubt they'll start them off with an easy par 5 right off the bat. 14 green would be a bitch as a long par 4...but the USGA doesn't give a shite.


This post was edited on 6/26/15 at 10:15 am
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
15861 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:19 am to
Nice thanks. I believe the USGA doesn't like hot weather therefore making all of the opens north of the mason dixon line. Pampered country club mfers. Although it is pretty hot in Sacremento right now for the Sr. US open. Frick the old timers.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57712 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:27 am to
I love golf, but for 245, they better be blowing me every 3rd hole
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18521 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:32 am to
Well, Whistling Straits was $400 earlier that day(though we did a stay and play package). So, $245 was a bargain.

If you stay the night at Erin Hills, you can replay the next day for $145
This post was edited on 6/26/15 at 10:33 am
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