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re: 2001 Nebraska offense.....Can it work today? Why or Why not?
Posted on 7/31/12 at 11:25 am to GhostBuster6
Posted on 7/31/12 at 11:25 am to GhostBuster6
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i doubt it would work in the SEC
of course it would not work in the SEC. Nothing works in the SEC but packages from SEC teams
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Posted on 7/31/12 at 11:25 am to Moustache
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It makes me wonder why precisely 0 teams run the old school Nebraska I form option
Some of its because teams felt they needed a balanced or more passing to recruit since the NFL is more and more of a passing league, a kid might think his chances of making the NFL even on the OL might not be as good if he doesn't learn to pass block.
some of its because more and more HS's are running spreads.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 11:26 am to Moustache
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I know this will sound crazy and like a homer, but LSU could not have beaten them, but the way Davey and Reed were clicking along with our D peaking at the right time, we probably would've played them the closest out of anyone that year.
I doubt it's as close as the VT and Boston College games.
I really think the only way anyone would have had a chance against that Miami team was to catch them napping and hope Dorsey was awful.
I see the game turning out pretty similar for anyone who plays them in the title game on the big stage. Just my opinion.
This post was edited on 7/31/12 at 11:28 am
Posted on 7/31/12 at 11:28 am to FightOn4ever
The only thing that works in the SEC is falling forward.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 11:32 am to Pilot Tiger
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any offense can work if you have the right players imo
Posted on 7/31/12 at 11:33 am to Moustache
Absolutely, but if you get down two scores you're pretty much fricked. Though Nebraska vs Colorado that year was awesome
Posted on 7/31/12 at 11:34 am to H-Town Tiger
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some of its because more and more HS's are running spreads.
This is true, but that means every defense is familiar with spreads as well.
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needed a balanced or more passing to recruit since the NFL is more and more of a passing league, a kid might think his chances of making the NFL even on the OL might not be as good if he doesn't learn to pass block.
People said the same thing about spread offenses like Meyer's. But, it didn't slow him down in recruiting.
Besides, Nebraska isn't going to get guys like Laremy Tunsil. They never have. They made their money getting an option guy like Frazier and every runningback wants to at least check out Nebraska solely due to the stats they could put up. Now, as far as receivers go, Nebraska would have a hard time with them.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 11:37 am to CGB Spender
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but if you get down two scores you're pretty much fricked.
That's not true at all. That is a myth. No more than if you get down by two scores running any other offense. (Especially LSU's in 2011)
As a matter of fact, some would argue that running this offense would help you if you were down two scores. Solely because other teams tend to panic and abandon game plans when they fall behind and thus throw more INTs or get away from what they were doing.
The only situation I see you being fricked in is having :30 seconds to go 65 yds with 1 timeout. But, most teams are fricked with that anyway.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 11:42 am to ohiovol
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I doubt it's as close as the VT and Boston College games
You have to think about what those scores would've been had VT and BC played them in the champ game.
I have no doubt LSU would've played them closer.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 11:55 am to Moustache
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but the way Davey and Reed were clicking along with our D peaking at the right time, we probably would've played them the closest out of anyone that year.
I agree with this. A very close game IMO.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 11:59 am to Moustache
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Watching these highlights made me realize Crouch was definitely deserving of the Heisman in '01
Stopped reading after that.
Rex Grossman says hi
Posted on 7/31/12 at 12:06 pm to Moustache
This is an interesting question regarding whether or not this offense and the program can return to elite levels.
Look at their roster from 2001. It's not as though all the players are from the Sun Belt states like Texas, Cali, and Florida, like the CU teams in the 90's and as those players began staying home the SEC teams got better.
There are a handful of guys from out of the region but many are from Nebraska, Iowa, Colorado, and Kansas.
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Look at their roster from 2001. It's not as though all the players are from the Sun Belt states like Texas, Cali, and Florida, like the CU teams in the 90's and as those players began staying home the SEC teams got better.
There are a handful of guys from out of the region but many are from Nebraska, Iowa, Colorado, and Kansas.
LINK
Posted on 7/31/12 at 12:06 pm to Enfuego
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Rex Grossman says hi
Eh.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 12:09 pm to ohiovol
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I see the game turning out pretty similar for anyone who plays them in the title game on the big stage. Just my opinion.
This. Oregon should have been in that game. Not a Ducks fan but that is arguably the biggest screw job in the BCS era short of Auburn, although someone was bound to get screwed in 2004.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 12:10 pm to Vlad The Inhaler
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Oregon should have been in that game. Not a Ducks fan but that is arguably the biggest screw job in the BCS era short of Auburn, although someone was bound to get screwed in 2004.
I agree. However, the ducks may have gotten their arse beat worse than the Huskers did.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 12:13 pm to Moustache
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the ducks may have gotten their arse beat worse than the Huskers did.
It's possible, sure. It was impressive though how they just destroyed Colorado despite missing out on the Rose Bowl. 2001 was a year that could have used a playoff.
Remember, Miami was not a wire to wire No. 1 and only took over late in the year. Outside the Hurricanes, Nebraska, Colorado, Oregon, Tennesee, Florida, Texas and LSU could all make a case to be in a four team playoff.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 12:28 pm to Vlad The Inhaler
Nebraska had just gotten destroyed by Colorado...and a few weeks later Oregon destroyed them.
Oregon had a really good college QB, receivers and great running D that stuffed the Big 12 Champ all day.
Miami wins but there's no way in hell Oregon doesn't put up a better game. Oregon was balanced.
Oregon had a really good college QB, receivers and great running D that stuffed the Big 12 Champ all day.
Miami wins but there's no way in hell Oregon doesn't put up a better game. Oregon was balanced.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 12:42 pm to Moustache
I don't think there's any question it can work... you've got to pair it with a lights-out defense, though (which obviously Neb did for the most par)... there are tons of kids out there who aren't going to play QB in the traditional college offense, and who are set on playing the position, that can run option in college...
There are unique offenses all around college football (imo, one of the main reasons i find it more enjoyable than NFL).... GT's option to the pirate's air-rade... all can work to varying degrees.
There are unique offenses all around college football (imo, one of the main reasons i find it more enjoyable than NFL).... GT's option to the pirate's air-rade... all can work to varying degrees.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 12:46 pm to Zamoro10
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Miami wins but there's no way in hell Oregon doesn't put up a better game. Oregon was balanced.
They were a good team. One loss to a Stanford team that finished No. 16 and conf champs and played great in the Bowl.
That year was a shame.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 12:49 pm to Moustache
In the 90's, Nebraska had the best S&C program in the country by far. If Osborn wanted to run the Pirate Spread like Leach runs, and recruited the right players for it, he would have gotten similar results.
Or he could have installed the right players into a pro-style offense and won too.
Or he could have installed the right players into a pro-style offense and won too.
This post was edited on 7/31/12 at 1:00 pm
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