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re: 2/3 of the way through the season, who would be your Heisman finalists?
Posted on 10/21/12 at 6:50 pm to prostyleoffensetime
Posted on 10/21/12 at 6:50 pm to prostyleoffensetime
I wouldn't be surprised if Manti Te'o finally wins again for the defensive players
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Posted on 10/21/12 at 7:05 pm to hsfolk
Yeah, Teo has a chance at getting to NYC,especially because of the weak field. If Wisconsin drops more games, or if Baylor finishes outside the top 20, that really hurts Ball and Williams.
Teo may end up with 120 tackles and 5-7 interceptions. Definitely Heisman material.
Teo may end up with 120 tackles and 5-7 interceptions. Definitely Heisman material.
Posted on 10/21/12 at 7:19 pm to Keys Open Doors
Klein, Barkely, Tae'o, Dodge and pick one. Spelling may be wrong sorry.
Posted on 10/21/12 at 7:25 pm to Keys Open Doors
i follow CFB hard and had no idea who Williams is. Looks like he is having a good season, but he is in the shadows for sure. Dont like his chances
Posted on 10/21/12 at 7:29 pm to Keys Open Doors
LeVeon Bell has to be in the mix there, too.
ETA:
If Texas Tech keeps winning - Doege's star will rise as well
ETA:
If Texas Tech keeps winning - Doege's star will rise as well
This post was edited on 10/21/12 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 10/21/12 at 7:32 pm to TheBiggestSpur
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He's completing less than 60% of his passes, isn't even in the top 50 in the nation in passing efficiency, and he's racked up his best numbers against absolute shite competition.
he already has 959 yards rushing and 10 rushing TDs
Posted on 10/21/12 at 7:33 pm to Lester Earl
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i follow CFB hard and had no idea who Williams is.
well that's surprising considering he was already talked about last year (not as a Heisman player) but RG3 made him shine, but Kendal Wright was more in the spotlight. He's already eclipsed 1000 rec yards. He's probably a first rounder next year.
Posted on 10/21/12 at 8:19 pm to Lester Earl
McCarron is a bit of a reach. I know he leads the nation in efficiency but, when you are 97th in the in pass attempts and 75th in passing yards per game in the nation then it is a big reach to put him in there. Their offense is effective and that is why they are #1 in the nation but, McCarron doesn't deserve to be up there in the Heisman talk.
Posted on 10/21/12 at 8:24 pm to Noplacelikehome
the guy from ND...
if A&M wins out, Johnny Football
idk who else
if A&M wins out, Johnny Football
idk who else
Posted on 10/21/12 at 8:59 pm to Bench McElroy
Kenjon Barner > DAT
Posted on 10/21/12 at 9:06 pm to Noplacelikehome
McCarron would have to have a big game against LSU, us go undefeated, and continue this crazy TD/INT rate.
It's a numbers game though, and I don't see how he'd be able to put up the numbers. There are a lot of misconceptions about our offense, he's not a "game manager," and our offensive line is kind of overrated. But we just have too many blowouts for him to put up the numbers.
He has attempted 17 passes in the fourth quarter. All year. In 7 games. Only 28 in all 7 3rd quarters.
His numbers so far: 1, 476 yards, 16 TD's and 0 INT's. Of that 1,025 yards and 13 touchdowns have come in the first half. We've actually been relatively pass-happy this year, until it's out of reach.
So yeah, I don't see it happening.
It's a numbers game though, and I don't see how he'd be able to put up the numbers. There are a lot of misconceptions about our offense, he's not a "game manager," and our offensive line is kind of overrated. But we just have too many blowouts for him to put up the numbers.
He has attempted 17 passes in the fourth quarter. All year. In 7 games. Only 28 in all 7 3rd quarters.
His numbers so far: 1, 476 yards, 16 TD's and 0 INT's. Of that 1,025 yards and 13 touchdowns have come in the first half. We've actually been relatively pass-happy this year, until it's out of reach.
So yeah, I don't see it happening.
Posted on 10/21/12 at 9:07 pm to bags03
If LA Tech didn't lose to Texas AM
Coly Cameron
Coly Cameron
Posted on 10/21/12 at 9:37 pm to xenythx
quote:
No he wouldn't. He wouldn't beat RG3, Cam, Bradford, Tebow, Reggie Bush, or Matt Leinart. That's just in the last 8 years
Through 7 games Klein would be ahead of all of them.
This post was edited on 10/21/12 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 10/21/12 at 9:40 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Through 7 games Klein would be ahead of all of them.
No
Posted on 10/21/12 at 9:42 pm to ssgtiger
What about Teddy Bridgewater?
Posted on 10/21/12 at 9:48 pm to VerlanderBEAST
Cam and Tebow were definitely ahead of what Klein's doing right now. But the last few years have had some very strong candidates. There haven't been winners like Chris Weinke, Jason White, or Eric Crouch in a while.
And I bet Bridgewater will get some attention next season.
And I bet Bridgewater will get some attention next season.
Posted on 10/21/12 at 9:52 pm to ssgtiger
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No
Yeah he would.
Cam hadn't beaten LSU yet.
Bush hadn't beaten Fresno State yet.
OU hadn't gone on the streak of 60 point games yet.
Florida was 5-2.
Baylor was 4-3.
Leinart, Smith and Ingram only won because they were perceived as the best player on the best team.
This post was edited on 10/21/12 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 10/21/12 at 10:02 pm to Keys Open Doors
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Yeah, Teo has a chance at getting to NYC,especially because of the weak field. If Wisconsin drops more games, or if Baylor finishes outside the top 20, that really hurts Ball and Williams.
Neither Ball nor Williams will make it to NYC. Neither is the best player at their position. Ball gained 25% of his rushing yards on the year in one game against the 94th ranked rushing defense (Purdue). Williams is a damn good receiver, but 30% of his yards came against arguably the worst BCS defense in the last decade. He doesn't return any kicks and has only one carry on the year. His team is already 3-3 and even if they do somehow win out, it'd take a great performance by Nick Florence and he'd take Williams votes.
For me this is a two-man race between Klein and Smith. Klein just needs to keep doing what he has been doing and he'll win it. Smith is down obviously, but if he can recover some of his lost production and West Virginia can at least 9 games, then he'll be right back in the thick of things.
There's always the possibility that one or both of these guys falters/gets injured in which case maybe a guy like McCarron sneaks in, or maybe even Doege if they can get 9 wins, but really no one else is in the conversation for now.
Posted on 10/21/12 at 10:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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he already has 959 yards rushing and 10 rushing TDs
Cool. Denard Robinson is averaging more rushing yards per game than him while facing better competition. The Heisman is suppose to be for the Most Outstanding Player in College Football. Braxton's had a good year running the ball. But he's nowhere near the most outstanding at his own position, much less in the nation.
I'ma go ahead and say that unless Teo gets some sacks, FF, or Brian Kelly says frick it and lets him tote the rock on the goalline or take the ball on returns, he isn't finishing in the top 5 either.
The last defensive Heisman winner was a guy who - in addition to not deserving the award at all - played in all three facets of the game: offense, defense, and special teams.
Posted on 10/21/12 at 10:17 pm to Keys Open Doors
Optimus Klein
Geno Smith
Te'o
Braxton Miller
McCarron
Geno Smith
Te'o
Braxton Miller
McCarron
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