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Posted on 12/23/21 at 7:55 pm
Posted by AtchafalayaRoute
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2021
1095 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 7:55 pm
Steve Young’s team that won the Natty against Michigan. Beat #3 Pitt to start the season.


Why is this team not mentioned or compared to schools like Cincy, ucf, boise, etc.

I wasn’t alive so I have no idea what that team was.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53408 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 7:57 pm to
Well, they beat Bo Schembechler's worst Michigan team ever. So, that doesn't help.
Posted by boston vol
Lexington-Fayette, KY
Member since Sep 2015
5580 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 7:58 pm to
That Pitt team ended up 3-7-1.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65113 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 8:00 pm to
quote:

Steve Young’s team that won the Natty against Michigan.


Steve Young was not on the 1984 BYU Cougars. His senior year was 1983.
Posted by Frac the world
The Centennial State
Member since Oct 2014
16822 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 8:02 pm to
Their schedule was absolute dog water, it was atrocious.

Nobody else finished undefeated though, that’s why they gave it to them
Posted by boston vol
Lexington-Fayette, KY
Member since Sep 2015
5580 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 8:03 pm to
BYU’s opponents finished with a record of 61-85-3.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71637 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 8:05 pm to
Because it was 40 years ago and a modern day G5 team with a comparable schedule rightfully wouldn't get close to a national title.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52796 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 8:05 pm to
Makes some of the undefeated non-P5 teams of recent years look more appealing:

quote:

A number of pollsters and coaches were reluctant to name the Cougars as national champion, partly because they believed BYU's schedule was too weak. Only two of BYU's opponents won at least seven games. They had played only one ranked opponent all season, preseason #3 Pittsburgh, a team that would finish 3–7–1 and unranked.
Posted by AU_RX
City of St George
Member since May 2005
4250 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 8:07 pm to
Robbie Bosco TYFYS
Posted by moontigr
Washington Commanders Fan
Member since Nov 2020
3412 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 8:07 pm to
Washington was the best team in the country that year, imo.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65113 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 8:08 pm to
Yeah...at the end of the day there really was no one else the AP or the Coaches could award their national title to, but BYU's schedule that year was absolutely horrible.

@ #3 Pittsburgh (3-7-1)
vs. Baylor (5-6)
vs. Tulsa (6-5)
@ Hawaii (7-4)
@ Colorado State (3-8)
vs. Wyoming (6-6)
@ Air Force (8-4)
@ New Mexico (4-8)
vs. UTEP (2-9)
vs. San Diego State (4-7-1)
@ Utah (6-5-1)
vs. Utah State (1-10)
vs. Michigan (6-6) [Holiday Bowl]
This post was edited on 12/23/21 at 8:09 pm
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139841 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 8:09 pm to
Well Washington didn’t win their conference so your argument is out the window

You do know SC beat Washington?
This post was edited on 12/23/21 at 8:14 pm
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
5619 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 8:10 pm to
quote:

won the Natty
They won the Holiday Bowl, which was the tie-in for WAC champions and BYU had played in it literally every year it had existed. Michigan was 6-4 and unranked coming in.

They were the only undefeated team left. They had contractual obligations that forced them into the crappy bowl. They pretty much won it by default. There just wasn't anyone else clear. At that time there was no championship system whatsoever. No alliance, bcs or playoffs. Just conferences tied to bowls and bowls giving invites where they please, and writers voting for it. That's why it's mythical. "National Champions" just meant something different then
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71637 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 8:10 pm to
The Hawaii team that UGA buried under the Superdome is a pretty good modern comp but even they beat a 10 win Boise St. Highest they got was 10.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30310 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 8:13 pm to
Because they shouldn't have been the National Champs. Any other team in the top 15 would have probably beaten them. They get matched up vs 6-5 (pre bowl) Michigan.
Posted by thegambler
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
1425 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 8:14 pm to
What about when Utah buried Alabama in the sugar bowl in 2009? That was a seal clubbing.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52796 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 8:14 pm to
Seems like it must’ve been a down year in cfb and the pollsters threw up their hands and decided to give it to the undefeated non-power conference school for a change.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65113 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 8:16 pm to
Washington came very close to beating BYU to #1 in the AP. I think the final point total was 1160-1140. Washington also got 16 first place votes to BYU's 38. Florida probably cost Washington the AP national championship due to their 6 first place votes.
This post was edited on 12/23/21 at 8:17 pm
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139841 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 8:16 pm to
BYU was ranked 1 going into the bowls. They were behind Washington until they lost to SC. BYU was getting smashed in the media by coaches also. But both the coaches and media poll voted BYU 1

Bosco hurt his knee bad came back in the game and led the comeback.

If OU wins the Orange it’s probably a split championship
This post was edited on 12/23/21 at 8:19 pm
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25528 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 8:28 pm to
Washington was the best team if you look at the body of work. Their only loss was to USC on the road. Unfortunately. USC wins the Pac tiebreaker even with their loss to UCLA.

Washington also beat Michigan in Ann Arbor.

Florida has an argument too, rolling to 9 straight wins after starting 0-1-1. Florida was sanctioned before the bowls though.
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