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re: 1 Year Ago Today: Tony Ward Jr. died

Posted on 8/10/15 at 9:09 am to
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 9:09 am to
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Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 9:12 am to
There is no way his family should get anything for it. None.

Even if they find enough brain dead jurors to somehow award them something, it won't change the fact that he get out of his race car on his own during a race and got in front of a car.
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 9:14 am to
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Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 9:15 am to
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There is no way his family should get anything for it. None. Even if they find enough brain dead jurors to somehow award them something, it won't change the fact that he get out of his race car on his own during a race and got in front of a car.
This isnt a criminal case. If I am a juror I want to know if Stewart played any part whatsoever. And without doing research, as an unbiased juror I def want to hear the case as the person who happened to hit Ward was the same person who he had a confrontation with. It seems that Ward def has the most blame as he walked onto the track like you have mentioned a million times, but did Stewart actually do everything he could to aboid the collision? Or does he have some blame as well? That is why this case is far from actually being frivilous.
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Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 9:19 am to
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If I am a juror I want to know if Stewart played any part whatsoever


Impossible to prove unless he comes out and says, yes I wanted to hit him and did.

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And without doing research, as an unbiased juror I def want to hear the case as the person who happened to hit Ward was the same person who he had a confrontation with.


Has nothing to do with Ward getting out of his car and getting in front of Stewart during a race.

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It seems that Ward def has the most blame as he walked onto the track like you have mentioned a million times, but did Stewart actually do everything he could to aboid the collision?


Have fun proving anything like that.

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Or does he have some blame as well?


Can't prove it without him confessing.

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That is why this case is far from actually being frivilous.


It's only not frivolous if Stewart admits anything. Until that happens, this is a giant waste of everyone's time.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 9:20 am to
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Can't prove it without him confessing.
Not how a civil case works

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It's only not frivolous if Stewart admits anything. Until that happens, this is a giant waste of everyone's time.
Once again, not in a civil case. The jurors only have to be convinced that they think Stewart might have been able to avoid the collision to avoid some money to Ward
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 9:23 am to
Well, I don't see how you can reasonably convince them he did nothing, so...
Posted by Goldrush25
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 9:30 am to
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Once again, not in a civil case. The jurors only have to be convinced that they think Stewart might have been able to avoid the collision to avoid some money to Ward


I think they'd have a better chance at suing his hometown preschool, you know, where they tell you to stay out of the street when cars are coming.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 9:31 am to
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All that matters is Ward got out of his car and moved into Stewart's way. A lawsuit should get them nothing. Ward did it to himself.


Prejudice much?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 9:32 am to
More like just concerned with who is responsible. I choose to blame the guy that willingly got out of his car during a race in got in the path of a car.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 9:34 am to
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More like just concerned with who is responsible. I choose to blame the guy that willingly got out of his car during a race in got in the path of a car.
And I have no doubt the jusry will also put the most blame on Ward as well. The question is whether or not they will put any blame on Stewart
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 9:36 am to
And to any reasonable person, there shouldn't be any since you cannot reasonably show anything without being a mind reader of having Stewart admit he intentionally did anything.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 9:41 am to
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And to any reasonable person, there shouldn't be any since you cannot reasonably show anything without being a mind reader of having Stewart admit he intentionally did anything.
I mean I disagree. The prosecution could bring in ex dirt track drivers that say Stewart could have avoided Ward, they could also bring in car experts that explain the reaction time and capabilities of the car etc etc. It isnt about reading minds. If it was no case would ever go to trial
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 9:41 am to
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His family has filed a lawsuit against Stewart.



About time. Ward was completely stupid for walking onto the track, but still Stewart clearly accelerated into him, IIRC. It's been almost a year since I've watched the video. fricker got away with murder on tape.
Posted by kkhere
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 1:55 pm to
Stewart's insurance company won't cover it.

LINK
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 1:59 pm to
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Even if they find enough brain dead jurors to somehow award them something, it won't change the fact that he get out of his race car on his own during a race and got in front of a car.



yeah that's not the definition of frivolous then
Posted by Walt OReilly
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 2:02 pm to
A lifetime?

Seems like last month
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 2:07 pm to
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Stewart, the murderer, ran over him. He didn't even attempt to avoid him like the other drivers did.


I see what you mean. I mean if I run in the middle of I-10 and get run over, the guy that hit me is at fault because he should've tried to avoid me.

I forget this is now a world where idiots aren't responsible for their own actions anymore.
Posted by nerd guy
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 2:09 pm to
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Didn't they find drugs in ward's system?



Yes
Posted by Volmanac
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 2:27 pm to
I'm just gonna mow down kids that are playing in the street near my neighborhood. They won't be able to read my mind so Nyah nyah.

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