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re: 1/16/12 Basketball Bet Thread: Money Train Edition

Posted on 1/16/13 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by memphstigers23
Fenway Pahk
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Posted on 1/16/13 at 2:37 pm to
I like Towson ML & Iowa State ML
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 1/16/13 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

Towson ML


Naturally
Posted by memphstigers23
Fenway Pahk
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Posted on 1/16/13 at 2:51 pm to
If it ain't broke don't fix it
Posted by Bow to Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 1/16/13 at 3:13 pm to
Make it rain on the train!

Indiana fricked up a great ml par that I had rolling last night.
Posted by accnodefense
Trump Fan
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/16/13 at 3:29 pm to
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So is laying the whole account on Colorado St ML a sound plan?


Well my rundown gives CSU a 91.7% chance, so if the implied odds of the CSU money line are less than 91.7%, then go for it

Though I never recommend playing -200 or greater money lines unless you are putting them in a parlay
Posted by tiger3030
Member since Jun 2006
223 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 3:30 pm to
Missed one on my previous post from açc's sheet.
Illnois-Chicago -2 projected to win 62-49

If any of these come back from dg as plays, I think I'm going (x2).
Posted by lsumailman61
Gulf Shores
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Posted on 1/16/13 at 3:32 pm to
Same here and only because Ole Miss pulled off a miracle.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25290 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 3:37 pm to
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Has RAS hit any of his public plays lately? I play his picks occasionally and recall being disappointed the last few times I tailed him.


I'm not sure, someone I follow on twitter posts the release - the lines have already moved by 1 or 1.5 by that point

Just speaks to the skills of RAS and their influence, really impressive.
Posted by 1fairbank
Smells Funny
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/16/13 at 4:26 pm to
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Missed one on my previous post from açc's sheet.
Illnois-Chicago -2 projected to win 62-49

If any of these come back from dg as plays, I think I'm going (x2).


I remember Illinois-Chicago (and Loyola-Chicago too, I forget exactly) being a 2x play of dg's last week and they got blown the frick out, so I'd be wary to play that.

I tend to notice on ACC's sheets that if you add five points to the home team, you tend to get real close to what the line is right then.
Posted by lsumailman61
Gulf Shores
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 1/16/13 at 4:42 pm to
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I tend to notice on ACC's sheets that if you add five points to the home team, you tend to get real close to what the line is right then.


Should i use this as factual evidence against ACC's lines?
Posted by 1fairbank
Smells Funny
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/16/13 at 4:45 pm to
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Should i use this as factual evidence against ACC's lines?


If anything, you should use this as evidence that ACC's system might be pretty damn close to how Vegas picks their opening lines.
Posted by accnodefense
Trump Fan
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/16/13 at 5:02 pm to
Some of you have asked for how accurate my sheets predictions are and how they do against posted totals and against the spread, I just made a blog post about it:

LINK

It's informative and shows how my sheets have done for the past week.

For those of you who don't want to read the whole thing and just want the gambling info, here it is:


quote:

Total ATS: 113-111-6 (-9.1 units)
Total Totals: 99-115-16 (-27.5 units)
Total ML: 82-86 (-62..5 units)
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ATS 3: 52-58-5 (-11.8 units)
Totals 3: 24-32-12 (-11.2 units)
Smart ML: 39-60 (-10.65 units)
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ATS 6: 28-29-3 (-3.9 units)
Totals 6: 9-13-11 (-5.3 units)
Ultra ML: 23-38 (-15.7 units)
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ATS 10: 9-9-2 (-0.9 units)
10 Totals: 6-6-11 (-0.6 units)
Sniper ML: 21-17 (+ 0.35 units)


Unfortunately, nothing has shown a profit yet except for Sniper Money Lines, and a very small one at that. This is a small sample size, however. Fortunately, the pickier we get in selecting games to bet, the better we do, with the ATS 10/Total 10/Sniper ML being near break even. This goes to show that you can’t rely solely on a prediction algorithm or method to make wagering bets, you have to use more resources at your disposal to properly handicap a game, such as injury reports, trends, history, and individual matchups. I do stand by my prediction center as a useful tool to measure expectancy.
Posted by accnodefense
Trump Fan
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/16/13 at 5:05 pm to
I do want to add that I do think fading the totals my calculator predicts could be a wise thing to do. Though teams have a set pace, the coaches try to exploit the other team’s pace and get them out of theirs, which can completely ruin any predictablilty when it comes to totals. I have seen the actual total of a game differ greatly from the predicted total not just in this one week span, but throughout multiple seasons. I don’t suggest blindly betting the other side of the predicted totals on my sheets, but there is evidence to suggest it will show a profit.

Some coaches will have their teams play out of style to confuse or disrupt the opponent. For example, last week Notre Dame played high tempo run up and down the floor against Seton Hall despite the fact that Notre Dame is anything but fast paced this year.

Fading the predicted totals on my sheet, at the moment, is the closest thing to a +EV way to bet using my sheets, but I do want to add that the sample size is still small.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28363 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 5:09 pm to
Ok......trying the NBA again..

0-2 YTD

Miami -2.5
Oklahoma -8
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
24522 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 5:16 pm to
quote:

Ala has covered twice (Tex Tech, Oakland) in about their last 10 games and are favored at State. They also lost a game (Mercer) where there was no line.



I'll be taking Alabama tonight fwiw
Posted by memphstigers23
Fenway Pahk
Member since Mar 2012
10278 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 5:22 pm to
Manti Teo > betting
Posted by TheFranchise
The Stick
Member since Feb 2005
6209 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 5:28 pm to
I'm not understanding what is the big deal about this story. Is the implication that he made it up to become a sympathetic figure and, potentially, garner more pub/award votes/etc.?
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28363 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

Manti Teo > betting


Posted by Bow to Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
1830 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 5:33 pm to
Bama/auburn pat
Posted by Bow to Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
1830 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 5:36 pm to
Dg and Mac take a deserved but unwelcomed night off?
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