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re: XOM stock (also other major oil stock talk)

Posted on 6/27/15 at 9:27 am to
Posted by misterc
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2014
700 posts
Posted on 6/27/15 at 9:27 am to
I'd prioritize appropriate position sizing and asset allocation, I cringe when I hear people say "I'm going all in". I mentioned earlier in this thread, I'm accumulating CVX for my kids trust, I feel its one of the best long term value plays right now. If you do go heavy on these be a disciplined long term investor and don't sell if things get worse.
Posted by jlu03
San Diego
Member since Jul 2012
3320 posts
Posted on 6/27/15 at 9:59 am to
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misterc



Give cvx time. There is more downside coming.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28335 posts
Posted on 6/27/15 at 11:25 am to
Yeap, with the news regarding Bigfoot, I'd wait awhile.
Posted by Omada
Member since Jun 2015
695 posts
Posted on 6/27/15 at 12:35 pm to
Is Bigfoot that important to Chevron? I'm asking because I don't know. It seems like Bigfoot's production and resulting revenues would be a drop in the bucket for CVX, even with lower oil prices. Has CVX cut or seen lower production elsewhere to make this project more important?
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28335 posts
Posted on 6/27/15 at 1:00 pm to
It's a $5 billion dollar asset that was supposed to see production last year, now it may not produce until 2017. I'm sure that's a significant hit. I guess a lot also has to do with how fast they can get gorgon and Wheatstone on line in Australia.
It just seems like they have a lot of money tied up right now, with little to no production from those wells.
This post was edited on 6/27/15 at 1:02 pm
Posted by misterc
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2014
700 posts
Posted on 6/27/15 at 1:11 pm to
I do not disagree with that in the short term......
Posted by Omada
Member since Jun 2015
695 posts
Posted on 6/27/15 at 1:44 pm to
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It just seems like they have a lot of money tied up right now, with little to no production from those wells.

This makes sense. Bigfoot problems alone wouldn't be a big deal: quarterly revenues for CVX are $30-40 billion at today's oil prices, and Bigfoot would contribute <$200 million per quarter next year. Have an upvote.

I'll also mention that I read on CVX's website that their production from the Agbami field offshore Nigeria has been declining, so they are going to set up more wells there to maintain production capacity. Here is the LINK.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28335 posts
Posted on 6/27/15 at 1:54 pm to
The future certainly looks bright, the key is jumping in at the right time to maximize your gain. Eventually it will pay off in spades, just maybe not as quickly as some of the other companies.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18883 posts
Posted on 6/30/15 at 10:57 am to
Does anyone know why RDS-B is performing worse than any major O&G lately?
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12721 posts
Posted on 6/30/15 at 12:00 pm to
Was wondering the same
Posted by GoldenD
Houston
Member since Jan 2015
928 posts
Posted on 6/30/15 at 12:35 pm to
I think it has to do with the feeling that they are over paying for BG group.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28335 posts
Posted on 6/30/15 at 12:56 pm to
What is the difference between rds/a and rds/b?
Posted by GoldenD
Houston
Member since Jan 2015
928 posts
Posted on 6/30/15 at 1:05 pm to
Rds-a is from the original Royal Dutch Shell company and is based in the Netherlands while Rds-b is from the Shell Transport and Trading Company listed in the UK.

A has first access to assets in event of bankruptcy while B has voting rights.

57/43 split as far as company ownership is concerned.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12721 posts
Posted on 7/1/15 at 1:47 am to
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Rds-a is from the original Royal Dutch Shell company and is based in the Netherlands while Rds-b is from the Shell Transport and Trading Company listed in the UK.

A has first access to assets in event of bankruptcy while B has voting rights.

57/43 split as far as company ownership is concerned.


correct me if I'm wrong, but RDS-B is the stock us Americans should purchase because the dividends on the A shares have a small percentage taken out to pay some European tax?
Posted by Tiger Bawlz
Southeast of Disorder
Member since Dec 2007
1977 posts
Posted on 7/1/15 at 1:52 am to
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I'm seriously considering cashing out large positions in aapl, t, gild and some others and going almost all in on the big names in oil(xom, cvx, rds and cop). I'm 33 and this is a buy and hold for 30 year strategy..... Am I insane?


Certifiable.

Invest in their subsidiaries. Unfortunately, this is all I can say, being I'm held under a NDA.
This post was edited on 7/1/15 at 2:28 pm
Posted by GoldenD
Houston
Member since Jan 2015
928 posts
Posted on 7/1/15 at 8:46 am to
Yes, A falls under the dutch tax code where the dividends are taxed something like 15-25%.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18883 posts
Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:25 am to
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Invest in their subsidiaries. Unfortunately, this all I can say, being I'm held under a NDA.

what?
Posted by Omada
Member since Jun 2015
695 posts
Posted on 7/1/15 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

I'm seriously considering cashing out large positions in aapl, t, gild and some others and going almost all in on the big names in oil(xom, cvx, rds and cop). I'm 33 and this is a buy and hold for 30 year strategy..... Am I insane?
I'll agree with Tiger Bawlz that it is a bad idea, but for different reasons. Going all in on oil stocks leaves you undiversified, so if (or when) oil takes another hit, your portfolio does the same. Plus, AAPL and GILD are solid companies that should make you a fair bit this year. Since oil is not going to $100 anytime soon (barring a black swan), oil stocks most likely won't provide the same returns, long term or short term. Selling T to buy oil stocks may not be a terrible idea, though.
Posted by Tiger Bawlz
Southeast of Disorder
Member since Dec 2007
1977 posts
Posted on 7/1/15 at 2:39 pm to
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Selling T to buy oil stocks may not be a terrible idea, though.


If you know what companies to invest in, and it's not the Seven Sisters. I'm done with this conversation before I get fired and never find another oil job.
Posted by OnTheBrink
TN
Member since Mar 2012
5418 posts
Posted on 7/1/15 at 3:01 pm to
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If you know what companies to invest in


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