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Why not much discussion of tax changes for 2011?

Posted on 2/1/11 at 4:19 am
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/1/11 at 4:19 am
100% bonus depreciation for businesses and SS down to 4.2% for employees
Posted by aaronb023
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/1/11 at 6:45 am to
I'm glad to keep more of my money, but it makes no sense to bring in less money for a ss program that is already broke. It just accelerates its demise
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 2/1/11 at 9:06 am to
what's the deal with depreciation, is this different from the sec 179 stuff that has been in effect for several years?
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Posted on 2/1/11 at 10:11 am to
yeah, they way you describe it makes it sound as if we can double the depreciation!

but I am not accountant....
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 2/1/11 at 11:25 am to
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It just accelerates its demise


If this is the case then why should people that wont retire for 30+ years have to pay anything? Let us have our own money to invest.
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Posted on 2/1/11 at 11:31 am to
+1

and of course, the theory is if the employer pays less in the SS taxes then maybe they can afford to hire more people
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 2/1/11 at 3:20 pm to
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SS down to 4.2% for employees


This irks me to no end. You have people excited that they are bringing home an extra 15-50 bucks a paycheck, and I'm just thinking to myself, really?
Either cut the damn program out, restructure it, or give me my money back.

Are they conceding to it's eventual demise?

This makes almost 0 financial sense to me. I took no time to look in to how/why this happened, but if somebody has and would like to explain it to me, please do.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24149 posts
Posted on 2/1/11 at 3:25 pm to
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and of course, the theory is if the employer pays less in the SS taxes then maybe they can afford to hire more people



Nope, employers still pay 6.2%. The 2.0% cut only applies to the employees part of SS.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24149 posts
Posted on 2/1/11 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

what's the deal with depreciation, is this different from the sec 179 stuff that has been in effect for several years?



For 2011, all capital expenditure from businesses can be depreciated at a 100% rate. This is probably one of the biggest things to help the economy that the government has done in the past few years.

For whatever reason, it is getting almost no press.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 2/1/11 at 9:25 pm to
Its not all cap ex, its only new cap ex. You can still 179 everything else though.
Posted by lsulexus
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Member since Sep 2007
525 posts
Posted on 2/1/11 at 10:20 pm to
Section 179 is limited to income.

Depreciation can cause a loss.This provides the opportunity to carry back losses for refunds or carry forward the loss to offset future taxable income.

There is a difference.
Posted by reveille
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
1198 posts
Posted on 2/1/11 at 10:31 pm to
I thought 179 was for cap too. Just at like a .85 rate for year 1 and table out the remaining .15. This 1.00 rate is great though.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24149 posts
Posted on 2/2/11 at 2:24 am to
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Its not all cap ex, its only new cap ex


Yes, sorry for not clarifying originally. This is a huge boost to the economy and could lead to tons of investment. I wish it was being discussed more by the mainstream.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 2/2/11 at 6:49 am to
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For 2011, all capital expenditure from businesses can be depreciated at a 100% rate.


are there still restrictions on vehicles? or can I get that "company" Porsche this year?
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24149 posts
Posted on 2/2/11 at 10:14 am to
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are there still restrictions on vehicles? or can I get that "company" Porsche this year?



Not sure about that specific of a detail. I would imagine so.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 2/2/11 at 11:34 am to
They'd have to be mildly competent to do so. FWIW I did mention it a few weeks back (which makes me mildly competent FTW).
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