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re: Where does the money come from when banks loan it out?
Posted on 5/15/14 at 4:28 pm to Sleeping Tiger
Posted on 5/15/14 at 4:28 pm to Sleeping Tiger
So why is it fraud when a company or an individual cooks books, but banks are allowed to create assets out of nothing?
Private banks create money out of nothing, they use a magic wand to create assets that become liabilities to individuals and businesses.
Seems fair.
Private banks create money out of nothing, they use a magic wand to create assets that become liabilities to individuals and businesses.
Seems fair.
Posted on 5/15/14 at 4:32 pm to LSURussian
Yeah, I know.. it's so unfair it's laughable.
Posted on 5/15/14 at 4:34 pm to TheHiddenFlask
quote:So you're telling us that banks usually keep 100% reserves on their loans unless they have some kind of "equity" built up? So smaller banks have higher reserves? What is this equity?
Community banks lend out their deposits and usually have a loan to deposit ratio of less than 100%, so there is no need for them to get financing. The bank also has equity built up, which would allow them to exceed 100%.
And what is the current reserve ratio requirement?
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As of October 12, 2012, the Fed required that all banks with more than $79.5 million on deposit maintain of a reserve of 10% of deposits. Banks with less than $79.5 million, but more than $12.4 million (the low reserve tranche), must reserve 3% of all deposits. Banks with less than $12.4 million (the exemption amount) in deposits have a zero percent reserve requirement.
ETA - I think see your point now, but 10% or no requirement is way "less than 100%"
This post was edited on 5/15/14 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 5/15/14 at 4:36 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Sleeping Tiger
omg you blew my mind.
OWS or Tea Party?
Posted on 5/15/14 at 4:40 pm to Cold Cous Cous
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OWS or Tea Party?
Both.
Posted on 5/15/14 at 4:45 pm to Sleeping Tiger
Cool. My theory is at heart they're the same thing, and the differences are far more cultural than substantive.
Posted on 5/15/14 at 4:53 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Sleeping Tiger
You're out of your intellectual league on this board. Go back to the PT before you hurt yourself.
Posted on 5/15/14 at 4:57 pm to Cold Cous Cous
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Cool. My theory is at heart they're the same thing, and the differences are far more cultural than substantive.
Feel the same.
eta: Feel like the media plays on the cultural differences (especially the outliners) as a way to brand these two groups as polar opposites instead of highlighting their substantial similarities.
This post was edited on 5/15/14 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 5/15/14 at 5:39 pm to Sleeping Tiger
Speaking of, where the hell has Wiki been?
Posted on 5/15/14 at 6:26 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Private banks create money out of nothing,
With your vast professional banking experience, please continue your tutorial...
Posted on 5/15/14 at 7:01 pm to Smalls
professional banking experience
What exactly is this? Working until 5PM every day and wearing a tie? The 1% that manage to make maybe $200K, and are arrogant and think this is a lot of money?
What exactly is this? Working until 5PM every day and wearing a tie? The 1% that manage to make maybe $200K, and are arrogant and think this is a lot of money?
Posted on 5/15/14 at 7:06 pm to Sleeping Tiger
Lend it out at 5-10%
Pay out 1-3 %
Think about it.
Pay out 1-3 %
Think about it.
Posted on 5/15/14 at 7:14 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Private banks create money out of nothing, they use a magic wand to create assets that become liabilities to individuals and businesses.
I just...I...wut?
Posted on 5/15/14 at 7:54 pm to Sleeping Tiger
Remember when the Conquistadors robbed all the Gold from the Incas and Mayans?
Well all of that money actually went to a consortium of banks in Ohio and the King of Spain makes every loan in the world from there. It is a little known Internet-verifiable fact.
There's even a song about it.
Banks of the Ohio
Well all of that money actually went to a consortium of banks in Ohio and the King of Spain makes every loan in the world from there. It is a little known Internet-verifiable fact.
There's even a song about it.
Banks of the Ohio
This post was edited on 5/15/14 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 5/15/14 at 8:37 pm to TIGRLEE
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Lend it out at 5-10%
Pay out 1-3 %
Think about it.
Why do ROAs consistently and almost universally hover around 1.00%? At a 1.00% ROA, how much new interest income less cost of funds less cost of acquiring new interest income less cost of some place to store the paperwork and process payments less cost of regulatory burden less taxes must be produced to replace every dollar loss of bad assets just to get back to breakeven?
Banks profit for three very simple reasons intertwined in a very complex animal: volume, leverage, and fees.... and just like the customers they lend money to, leverage amplifies deteriorating financial condition due to losses just as well as it amplifies financial condition due to profits. You're talking about an industry where interest income barely covers cost of funds and operating expenses. Profits are roughly equal to whatever fee and trading income those institutions can generate.
Posted on 5/15/14 at 9:33 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Private banks create money out of nothing, they use a magic wand to create assets that become liabilities to individuals and businesses.
Which banks are doing this?
Posted on 5/15/14 at 9:52 pm to ZereauxSum
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Which banks are doing this?
The bank that I'm starting up first thing in the AM because this whole process sounds cool as hell!
Posted on 5/15/14 at 9:58 pm to Walking the Earth
I have a bank that just created 5.3T in assets by waving a magic wand. Take that JP Morgan.
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