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re: thoughts on disability insurance?
Posted on 6/24/14 at 11:21 am to iknowmorethanyou
Posted on 6/24/14 at 11:21 am to iknowmorethanyou
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Their claims payment and processing are atrocious.
Yep. I believe they have dropped out of the LTC market all together, iirc. Another reason why I hound the fact that you shouldn't base everything on price alone. The actually company is very important.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 11:32 am to iknowmorethanyou
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Is the definition of disability own occupation?
Probably the most misunderstood part of disability insurance.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 11:34 am to tiger91
Own occupation means if he's disabled as a farmer, he doesn't have to become something else. He may not be able to farm, but he can teach AgriBusiness at North Vermilion. Some policy definitions say that if he can reasonably earn a living doing something else then he's not disabled. "Own Occupation" would be listed on the policy declaration page.
As far as riders go, partial is OK. I like Social Security Supplement to offset premium cost along with COLA and Guaranteed Increase Options.
As far as riders go, partial is OK. I like Social Security Supplement to offset premium cost along with COLA and Guaranteed Increase Options.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 11:35 am to yellowfin
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It's a must
For people who work in an office, I haven't really seen a great argument for it. At least not enough of one to persuade me to buy above whatever minimum deal my office offers.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 11:38 am to Y.A. Tittle
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For people who work in an office
Paid lots in claims for mental and nervous on lawyers in my career.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 11:40 am to iknowmorethanyou
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Paid lots in claims for mental and nervous on lawyers in my career.
Maybe so. I think it's a lot of horseshite, though.
(Not saying you didn't do so, just the general notion.)
Posted on 6/24/14 at 11:42 am to Y.A. Tittle
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For people who work in an office, I haven't really seen a great argument for it.
The majority of disabilities aren't physical injuries by nature. Most are cognitive or illness driven.
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At least not enough of one to persuade me to buy above whatever minimum deal my office offers.
Eliminate your tax burden if the employer deducts your premium.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 11:45 am to iknowmorethanyou
Thanks iknowmorethanyou ... appreciate it. Not sure about this but will have him inquire.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 11:46 am to iknowmorethanyou
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Own occupation means if he's disabled as a farmer, he doesn't have to become something else. He may not be able to farm, but he can teach AgriBusiness at North Vermilion
Some. Though, say you are a orthopedic surgeon, most companies will use that definition as a physician. So, he may not be able to perform surgery, but he can diagnose and see patients, therefore, not totally disabled. Also, many won't say you are disabled if you are able to earn 80% of your income in another occupation.
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Some policy definitions say that if he can reasonably earn a living doing something else then he's not disabled. "Own Occupation" would be listed on the policy declaration page.
Yea, many Own Occ definitions also say that if the person can work in another occupation, they have to be gainfully employed to receive any benefits.
I know a lot like the Own Occupation definition, but unless you are in a very specific type of career, I don't think it is necessarily the best fit.
This post was edited on 6/24/14 at 11:51 am
Posted on 6/24/14 at 11:50 am to GoCrazyAuburn
So very true. Best advice would be to read your illustration and/or policy VERY CAREFULLY!
Posted on 6/24/14 at 11:52 am to iknowmorethanyou
Agreed. Another reason to not just buy these policies off of a website
I know people don't like dealing with salesmen, but they do have their benefit if you hold them accountable.
I know people don't like dealing with salesmen, but they do have their benefit if you hold them accountable.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 11:54 am to GoCrazyAuburn
Plus their E&O to go after if they F it up.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 11:54 am to iknowmorethanyou
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COLA and Guaranteed Increase Options
These are a must.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 11:54 am to iknowmorethanyou
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Plus their E&O to go after if they F it up.
so true.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:57 pm to HailToTheChiz
Friend of mine and her husband and young children were in a very bad car accident some years ago. Husband healed up from the physical injuries, but has short term memory loss, so he can't work. He can forget what you told him 5 minutes ago or forget he fed the dog 3 times already in an hour. He was in a very lucrative job in Texas. He had two policies for some reason. My friend thanks her lucky stars every day for that because there wasn't enough insurance to keep the family going for very long. You never know...
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:27 pm to Gris Gris
Sorry about your friends' situation, but thanks for sharing. That's quite a compelling story. Sadly, most of those stories are followed by...and they didn't have insurance.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:34 pm to iknowmorethanyou
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Sadly, most of those stories are followed by...and they didn't have insurance.
No kidding. Glad they did some planning.
I hate using stories like those, even though I have my share, because I don't like appealing to the emotional side of things. However, they are a reality.
I personally would much rather make the small mistake of paying for a policy and not needing it, then the big mistake of not having one when I need it.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:41 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
No kidding. He was a sharp guy. Very sharp guy. Their situation would have been pretty devastating without those policies. I'd never thought about how awful short term memory loss could be until this happened. Can't remember simple things. His wife has to leave notes all over the house for him and they literally had to put the dog on a diet because he gained so much weight from the multiple meals. I thought he might forget to feed the dog, but that was never a problem.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:06 pm to HailToTheChiz
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thoughts on disability insurance
Would have to be an absolute idiot to not have any or to think you could make it off of SS alone
Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:35 pm to Gris Gris
Yeah you really never know...
My parents took in a couple disabled children from a crackhead cousin of mine. My (very healthy) dad ended up having a brain tumor a few years later just out of the blue. It was successfully removed but he has severe setbacks including memory loss that has kept him from going back to work. Thank God for disability insurance or they'd never make it and no telling where those poor kids would be.
My parents took in a couple disabled children from a crackhead cousin of mine. My (very healthy) dad ended up having a brain tumor a few years later just out of the blue. It was successfully removed but he has severe setbacks including memory loss that has kept him from going back to work. Thank God for disability insurance or they'd never make it and no telling where those poor kids would be.
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