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re: The reoccuring question.. should I pay off my mortgage?

Posted on 9/18/12 at 8:28 am to
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162198 posts
Posted on 9/18/12 at 8:28 am to
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Yes, never a bad decision to pay off your home. Yeah .4% doesn't seem like much but you'll have peace mind right?


This seems like terrible advice

Things like "peace of mind" don't trump actual math
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17474 posts
Posted on 9/18/12 at 11:07 am to
quote:

I would much rather have a paid off mortgage than a fat stack of cash.

OK.
Having your house note paid creates a sense of security for you.
I enjoy having the security of the cash in hand while living in the house I have mortgaged.

quote:

Pay off the home and then build the stash back up, all while not having a mortgage payment. You'd be surprised at how fast you can save/invest when you don't have monthly payments. I've done exactly that and the feeling of completely owning my home is one that cannot be replaced.

OK.
Again, it is your need of a secure feeling that strengthens you, and that is OK.
I prefer to keep a note on my real estate purchases while saving and investing. Opportunity cost calculations indicate that my decision is always in my best monetary interests. I maintain a low mortgage payment that frees up all that would be paid toward the mortgage payment, to go into savings, while maintaining a semblence of tax-deduction on interest paid.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112415 posts
Posted on 9/18/12 at 1:39 pm to
Pay it off. Best decision I ever made. Saved 1,000s. Money in the bank is worthless.
Posted by Brian Wilson
Member since Mar 2012
2016 posts
Posted on 9/18/12 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

I maintain a low mortgage payment that frees up all that would be paid toward the mortgage payment, to go into savings, while maintaining a semblence of tax-deduction on interest paid.


Sorry dude, maintaining a mortgage just for the tax deduction is pointless. You can put that money elsewhere and earn more in interest than you are going to save on taxes.
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 9/18/12 at 1:58 pm to
Forget it, Donny, you're out of your element.
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 9/18/12 at 1:59 pm to
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Brian Wilson



He's your buddy isn't he?
Posted by Brian Wilson
Member since Mar 2012
2016 posts
Posted on 9/18/12 at 2:08 pm to
Who is this? He looks like a ra-tard.
Posted by bigblake
Member since Jun 2011
2498 posts
Posted on 9/18/12 at 2:20 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 10:06 am
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17474 posts
Posted on 9/18/12 at 2:35 pm to
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Sorry dude, maintaining a mortgage just for the tax deduction is pointless.

did you read all of my reply to you or did you just pick this one thing to drone on, bruh?
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
14853 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 5:34 am to
much of this discussion is based on a normal economy.

After November we will have a clearer look at financial decision making
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17474 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 7:31 am to
quote:

much of this discussion is based on a normal economy



I don't have enough time to waste on this one, so I to your insight.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72505 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 8:10 am to
quote:

Finally, I just don't get the whole "peace of mind" thing.


and yet plenty do.....especially those who have struggled most of their life with a house note during bad times,other debts/situations, etc.

it all depends on his situation of which he has not given us the details of. You want that note during a job loss? Family debt crisis? UI runs out? Who knows what can happen? Emergency fund run out on other debts? Foreclosure?

Bottom line is if he paid off the house and had next to nothing left(Huge mistake) then yes most would prefer to milk that cheap rate and invest that money instead. Now if he has as much in the bank along with that money he inherited and he plans to stay there awhile pay it off...unless he would save that inherited money for his emergency mortage note and invest it in a high dividend yield fund in the meantime. I prefer no bills (if at all possible) as i have had enough notes over my lifetime. But that is just me.
This post was edited on 9/20/12 at 2:14 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72505 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 8:11 am to
quote:

much of this discussion is based on a normal economy.


yup. easier said than done. I have been through tons of hard times.as have others here. always be prepared for the worst.

This post was edited on 9/19/12 at 8:17 am
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72505 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 8:13 am to
quote:

I recently came into a good bit of change. Enough to pay off all debt, etc..


This tells me nothing. Bottom line how much will it cost to pay your house off?

IF you pay it off how much money do you have left total? that you have in investments, savings? etc?
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30818 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 9:15 am to
Easy decision, pay it off.
Posted by slacker00
Member since Mar 2011
588 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:38 am to
As everyone said the specific details of the situation make a difference, but as for rules of thumb, I'm starting to think that paying off the mortgage makes better sense. On paper many folks can beat the interest rates, but I think most don't because they don't put forth the proper time/effort. If you have better investment vehicles or are willing to put the time in great, but for most people who don't do that, I think paying off the mortgage faster, is a better bet.
Posted by jmtigers
1826.71 miles from USC
Member since Sep 2003
4970 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

You want that note during a job loss?


He can always pay the note and taxes with this chunk of cash during a job loss or crises. On the other hand if he pays off the mortgage and then has a crises he cant even pay the taxes, electric bill, etc...
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:31 pm to
quote:


He can always pay the note and taxes with this chunk of cash during a job loss or crises. On the other hand if he pays off the mortgage and then has a crises he cant even pay the taxes, electric bill, etc...


BINGO!!!!!!
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43469 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:41 pm to
I think alot depends on what your income potential is.

if you make 35k a year id say you better hang on to a big portion of the money.

if you make 150k a year id say pay the house off.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72505 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

He can always pay the note and taxes with this chunk of cash during a job loss or crises. On the other hand if he pays off the mortgage and then has a crises he cant even pay the taxes, electric bill, etc...


which is why i stated....................


quote:

Bottom line is if he paid off the house and had next to nothing left(Huge mistake) then yes most would prefer to milk that cheap rate and invest that money instead. Now if he has as much in the bank along with that money he inherited and he plans to stay there awhile pay it off...unless he would save that inherited money for his emergency mortage note and invest it in a high dividend yield fund in the meantime. I prefer no bills (if at all possible) as i have had enough notes over my lifetime. But that is just me.


then i asked him....................


quote:

Bottom line how much will it cost to pay your house off? IF you pay it off how much money do you have left total? that you have in investments, savings? etc?


hell, the guy may have a ton in the bank and still want to hold the new money also and milk that rate. fine, it is up to him as i stated beforehand. different circumstances for different people.

This post was edited on 9/20/12 at 2:15 pm
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