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Silver is up 30% in the last 3 months
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:46 pm
Including a surge up of over 6% today alone.
What's driving this? Expectation of more currency devaluations?
What's driving this? Expectation of more currency devaluations?
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:50 pm to TigerDeBaiter
its odd bc the dollar is strong as an ox. Usually that stuff rips up when the dollar weakens. Who knows but Im not a believer, whenever people say well look how much gold is up from 1900 or whatever I completely lol. How much is gold up from 1980???? Like 50% or so in 36 years, every investment has its ups and downs but golds only value imo is in a place like venezuela where your currency dies you can take your gold to another country and sell it for currency, thats great, but stocks also hold value and those pay dividends which you can reinvest while gold does not. Physical gold you pay over price to buy and below price to sell, thats just ridiculous.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 3:11 pm to dabigfella
Yeah, I'm not advocating to go out and buy any, just looking to see if this could be forecasting other moves in the market.
I own 60 ounces of physical silver in eagles that I was able to pick up for less the $15 each, but probably will never sell them. Like you said, the premium when you buy and the discount when you sell is just stupid.
I own 60 ounces of physical silver in eagles that I was able to pick up for less the $15 each, but probably will never sell them. Like you said, the premium when you buy and the discount when you sell is just stupid.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 3:33 pm to dabigfella
Yet in Venezuela they won't even let you take your money to another country lol. So you gotta risk your life with the gold you may have.. I agree with you though
Posted on 7/1/16 at 3:35 pm to Shepherd88
exactly lol at anyone with gold in venezuela. The basic premise of all the goldbug forums is that in a SHTF situation, like venezuela, you can barter with your gold. LOL if some guy tried to trade me his gold bar for a loaf of bread in venezuela id take my gun and take his gold and his clothes and the man would be naked on the streets of caracas
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:00 pm to dabigfella
Yep, the fear mongerers are selling the wrong product for sure. Ammo >>> gold
Posted on 7/1/16 at 10:38 pm to dabigfella
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How much is gold up from 1980???? Like 50% or so in 36 years,
I had a child born in 1999 and 2001. In 2002 I decided to buy each of them a couple of birth year $50 gold eagles and 2 100 oz Sunshine mine silver bars. At that time gold was about $280 oz and silver was roughly $4. I ended up selling the silver bars for $3500 a piece and they have now been replaced with several more. I plan on giving them to them on their respective 21 first birthdays.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 1:02 am to TigerDeBaiter
Damn, just checked it and it's hoovering around 19.5. Got involved with it back in 2011. I think I need to get to 22.5 to break even.
The rhetoric back then was "100 ounces of silver to buy a house". My arse. I can't even buy a decent front door with 100 ounces now.
The rhetoric back then was "100 ounces of silver to buy a house". My arse. I can't even buy a decent front door with 100 ounces now.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 8:38 am to dabigfella
owning physical is silly IMO. if you want to hit that market buy an ETF, or mining stocks, or just trade the damn futures contracts. Also, as has been said, water, food, ammo and guns and medicine will outweigh anybody with physical silver or gold if the SHTF.
This post was edited on 7/2/16 at 8:52 am
Posted on 7/2/16 at 10:51 am to Fat Bastard
It's seem prudent, and a balanced portfolio, to own 100% of what you are anticipating to retire with in the form of intangible paper. We all learned this when we owned some high yielding bonds back in 2009. And various other time throughout history, which always seems to repeat itself.
Outside of people's personal residences, this is precisely what the majority of people do. All the while claiming to have a balanced portfolio. Usually, heavily weighted with one assets class. Equities.
Certainly many advisors recommend to never take possession of a commodity or tangible asset, strangely making an exception for owner occupied real estate. As if the sale of owner occupied real estate wouldn't necessitate replacement if you actually needed a place to live.
But most advisors that seem to balance capital preservation along with growth do recommend broad asset classes, including precious metals. I don't see many recommending having high percentages allocated, but most seem to recommend some small percentage.
So I guess someone on here is going to need to explain to me how my taking possession of silver, at price points as low as $6 per oz, is foolish, given the relatively short time period the value of this at current spot, less resale premium, is over 3X what I had paid for it.
Or how I am foolish owning at least some percentage of many asset classes.
Or how it is logical to make the argument that my house is a growth investment asset, becuase if I sell it, wouldn't I need to somehow pay for replacement housing? Notwithstanding that I could downsize, and show some sort of realized gain. After expenses of two transactions. Which make the premium of silver seem pretty slightly more acceptable.
Outside of people's personal residences, this is precisely what the majority of people do. All the while claiming to have a balanced portfolio. Usually, heavily weighted with one assets class. Equities.
Certainly many advisors recommend to never take possession of a commodity or tangible asset, strangely making an exception for owner occupied real estate. As if the sale of owner occupied real estate wouldn't necessitate replacement if you actually needed a place to live.
But most advisors that seem to balance capital preservation along with growth do recommend broad asset classes, including precious metals. I don't see many recommending having high percentages allocated, but most seem to recommend some small percentage.
So I guess someone on here is going to need to explain to me how my taking possession of silver, at price points as low as $6 per oz, is foolish, given the relatively short time period the value of this at current spot, less resale premium, is over 3X what I had paid for it.
Or how I am foolish owning at least some percentage of many asset classes.
Or how it is logical to make the argument that my house is a growth investment asset, becuase if I sell it, wouldn't I need to somehow pay for replacement housing? Notwithstanding that I could downsize, and show some sort of realized gain. After expenses of two transactions. Which make the premium of silver seem pretty slightly more acceptable.
Posted on 8/28/16 at 8:44 pm to Iowa Golfer
Bought a little recently. Interesting idea for the children. I don't see why that strategy wouldn't work in 2016
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