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Should I re-finance my house?

Posted on 8/16/10 at 1:59 pm
Posted by LSUROXS
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
7172 posts
Posted on 8/16/10 at 1:59 pm
I'm at 6.1% for a 15 year fixed and the bank has this same type of loan for under 4.0%
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19315 posts
Posted on 8/16/10 at 2:02 pm to
How long have you had the current loan?

The spread is enough to consider it, but if you're really close to paying off the old loan you might do well to leave it alone.

Also, related questions -- does the bank you're considering have an automatic withdrawal feature, and does if offer the ability to pay a portion of the mortgage with each paycheck (e.g., if you are paid twice a month, can you pay 1/2 the mortgage at that time or shortly thereafter?)
Posted by LSUROXS
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
7172 posts
Posted on 8/16/10 at 2:06 pm to
I've had this loan about 3 years. And yes, the bank will do the bi-monthly withdrawl.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75290 posts
Posted on 8/16/10 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

bi-monthly withdrawl.


What are the pros and cons to this?

Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19315 posts
Posted on 8/16/10 at 2:11 pm to
I would refinance in this scenario.

Paul--In answer to your question, having 1/2 of the mortgage paid at each paycheck makes for easier cash flow, and the auto withdrawal is a good convenience (no chance to have a check lost in the mail).

Periodic withdrawals are actually better for those (like myself) who have bi-weekly or weekly paychecks; in those cases you end up making the equivalent of one extra mortgage payment per year (lowers principal faster and pays it off sooner).
Posted by LSUROXS
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
7172 posts
Posted on 8/16/10 at 2:12 pm to
I do not do this but the way it works out if you are paid bi-monthly then you receive 26 pay checks a year as opposed to 24 or 12. This will allow you to pay an extra payment per year and this will help pay off the loan quicker.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19315 posts
Posted on 8/16/10 at 2:18 pm to
I think we all may have our terms mixed up.

Bi-monthly actually means every other month.

Semi-monthly means twice a month (either 1st and 15th or 15th and last day of month). This comes out to 24 pay checks per year.

Bi-weekly is the one with 26 paychecks per year (this is how I am paid and I have 1/2 my monthly payment taken out on the following Tuesday). I will pay my mortgage off the day before Halloween 2012, two years ahead of schedule.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75290 posts
Posted on 8/16/10 at 2:18 pm to
Thanks

Posted by LSUROXS
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
7172 posts
Posted on 8/16/10 at 2:20 pm to
that's my fault.
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
16490 posts
Posted on 8/16/10 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

Bi-weekly is the one with 26 paychecks per year (this is how I am paid and I have 1/2 my monthly payment taken out on the following Tuesday). I will pay my mortgage off the day before Halloween 2012, two years ahead of schedule.


Actually that is right on schedule for the way you are paying it. You are simply paying more now obviously. Roughly the same effect can be done by simply paying a little more on each of your regularly monthly payments or making a 13th payment annually. Banks market this 'service' for a fee generally to GENERATE more money for themselves, not save you any. If the service was free it's a good deal, if not, they just took your money.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19315 posts
Posted on 8/16/10 at 2:37 pm to
My mortgage is handled through a company called CU Members Mortgage (the CU standing for credit union, it works with several of them in this area) which is part of Colonial Savings here in the DFW area.

In order to participate in their "Interest Saver" program (as they call it, if I remember the name right), they charge $1 for each wire transfer ($26 per year).

If the bank charges a lot for it, then it may not be worth it. I've seen some mortgage companies charge $100s per year for this.
Posted by cadn0327
covington
Member since Aug 2010
22 posts
Posted on 8/17/10 at 5:58 am to
If you plan to stay in the house it makes a lot more sense, especially if you plan on rolling in closing costs. I suggest also looking into a 10 year term. Take a look:

Current monthly note - proposed monthly note= savings per month

savings per month / closing costs = # of months to recoup closing costs
Posted by flyingtiger
San Antonio, TX
Member since Jun 2005
451 posts
Posted on 8/17/10 at 6:41 am to
The answer is definitely yes!! You will save thousands in the long run...lock it in today. I wish I was leaving the military and buying mjy last house ever in the market conditions of today!!
Posted by LSU1018
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
7222 posts
Posted on 8/17/10 at 6:46 am to
Yes you should definitely refinance. If you plan on staying in the house another 10 years, I would suggest getting the 10 year mortgage. It would be almost what you are paying now most likely.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126977 posts
Posted on 8/17/10 at 6:47 am to
quote:

Should I re-finance my house?
I'm at 6.1% for a 15 year fixed and the bank has this same type of loan for under 4.0%
No, you should not refinance your house.

It's not financially wise to pay less interest over several years. Most intelligent people prefer to continue to pay more than 50% more interest above what they could be paying if they refinanced. That is why you never hear of anyone refinancing their house when rates decline.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124273 posts
Posted on 8/17/10 at 7:22 am to
quote:

No, you should not refinance your house.

It's not financially wise to pay less interest over several years. Most intelligent people prefer to continue to pay more than 50% more interest above what they could be paying if they refinanced. That is why you never hear of anyone refinancing their house when rates decline.


Now, now, there need be none of that! Behave yourself Rooskie!

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126977 posts
Posted on 8/17/10 at 7:30 am to
Too much?
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 8/17/10 at 8:14 am to
Personally I think rates are so low right now that if your house is paid off you should consider taking out a new mortgage and investing the proceeds. So yes, do the refi.
Posted by David Wooderson
in make believe
Member since May 2009
239 posts
Posted on 8/17/10 at 11:06 pm to
Look at at 10yr. You could possibly get 3.5% or do 3.75% with no origination and cut your cost going into the loan. Doing a 10yr would definitely benefit if you are staying in house.
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