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Serious Question about Gold/Silver In Venezuela currently
Posted on 5/23/16 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 5/23/16 at 8:02 pm
Ive never been a gold investor but I have a few diehard friends who swear its the only thing that will have value if SHTF and so now that SHTF in venezuela, it seems to me like gold/silver are actually worthless and people with guns can just confiscate whatever is there but are people bartering that stuff over there now?
Is a gold bar worth a loaf of bread now? I mean im lost on how gold is such a great store of wealth if you're in a crisis like venezuela and cant get your gold out and go to a place like the US where your gold would indeed have value to have saved your money in.
Is a gold bar worth a loaf of bread now? I mean im lost on how gold is such a great store of wealth if you're in a crisis like venezuela and cant get your gold out and go to a place like the US where your gold would indeed have value to have saved your money in.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 9:01 pm to dabigfella
If S really HTF, gold and silver are pretty worthless. Ammo, food and water will be so much more valuable in a near collapse situation like Venezuela.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 9:07 pm to TigerTatorTots
obviously had you put your bolivars in gold and are capable of getting said gold out of venezuela you're good but these SHTF scenarios come up quick and i imagine most venezuelans with gold are just out of luck right now.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 9:08 pm to dabigfella
Clean water and antibiotics are easily worth more than gold in a survival situation. In a circumstance like Venezuela, the ability to grow some food would be helpful. A handful of dried peas, planted, will keep,you fed regardless of currency circumstances. And food is an excellent means of barter.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 10:11 pm to dabigfella
Your diehard friends are ignorant.
There have been numerous collapses like this, many far worse than Venezuela. Usually the first thing everyone does is try to acquire a "hard" currency, like the dollar. In Zimbabwe just a few years ago dollars practically overnight became the defacto currency. Funny that at the same time goldbugs here wanted to ditch their dollars in favor of gold, they could have gone to Zimbabwe and made a fricking killing selling greenbacks if they could avoid getting murdered.
The other thing that the population does is simply barter as much as possible. By getting transactions off the books everything escapes government notice.
Speaking of which, the government of course tries to make it difficult to get hard currency but smugglers are usually better than the police and are buying them off to look the other way anyway.
I'll speculate that if you get scared and convert your stuff to gold before tSHTF you can hold on to it until better times come later, but it will have very little use while the fan is spinning.
It's sad what's happening over in Venezuela. I was there about five years ago and it was obvious things were about to go to hell, it was in the air everywhere. Incredible natural beauty though, and I met many locals who I hope are doing okay but probably aren't.
There have been numerous collapses like this, many far worse than Venezuela. Usually the first thing everyone does is try to acquire a "hard" currency, like the dollar. In Zimbabwe just a few years ago dollars practically overnight became the defacto currency. Funny that at the same time goldbugs here wanted to ditch their dollars in favor of gold, they could have gone to Zimbabwe and made a fricking killing selling greenbacks if they could avoid getting murdered.
The other thing that the population does is simply barter as much as possible. By getting transactions off the books everything escapes government notice.
Speaking of which, the government of course tries to make it difficult to get hard currency but smugglers are usually better than the police and are buying them off to look the other way anyway.
I'll speculate that if you get scared and convert your stuff to gold before tSHTF you can hold on to it until better times come later, but it will have very little use while the fan is spinning.
It's sad what's happening over in Venezuela. I was there about five years ago and it was obvious things were about to go to hell, it was in the air everywhere. Incredible natural beauty though, and I met many locals who I hope are doing okay but probably aren't.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 4:47 am to foshizzle
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Funny that at the same time goldbugs here wanted to ditch their dollars in favor of gold, they could have gone to Zimbabwe and made a fricking killing selling greenbacks if they could avoid getting murdered.
Just out of curiosity, exactly what would they have been exchanging greenbacks for in your scenario?
Posted on 5/24/16 at 7:04 am to dabigfella
I would think that if one had enough money and forethought to purchase gold, or another hedge (not as a major part of a portfolio, but maybe 4-9% in the aggregate), one would A) have enough smarts to read the writing on the wall, and leave the area/situation before it was too late, and B) have enough money to do A).
Looking at your above scenario in its totality.
Looking at your above scenario in its totality.
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