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Serious question about Federal Employees missing paychecks

Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:34 am
Posted by BoneDrownedDave
Member since Feb 2014
589 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:34 am
Why don't they seriously just go to a payday loan place?

Never spent a bunch of time in northern Virginia or D.C., but around here there are just as many payday loan places as McDonal's and Suways, andI be damned if I didn't go to Speedy Loans before I lined up at a soup kitchen or a restaurant giving away free meals to federal employees for the news cameras.

...If the Shutdown continues, I'm gonna borrow 10 million dollars and paint detail my grandpa's horse trailer and turn that bitch into a traveling payday loan place for federal employees!!!
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:39 am to
Because payday loans are a fricking racket, for starters. I think some offer it at "no cost" providing you pay back on a given date, but they bank on you not paying back on said date, and from that point the interest rate is stupid.

So how are they going to a payday loan when they don't know when payday is going to be?


Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:44 am to
Because they dony want to pay 40% APR would be my guess
Posted by Hussss
Living the Dream
Member since Oct 2016
6744 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:44 am to
Maybe because the interest they charge is exorbitant
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24154 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:48 am to
You thought this was a good post on the Poli board until you brought this crap here.
Posted by iron banks
Destrehan
Member since Jul 2014
3754 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:56 am to
Yeah, really isn't a solution for most responsible folks.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37106 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:53 am to
How can they get a payday loan when they don't know when payday will be?

I'll leave the politics to the Poli Board, but the financial implications of this to these employees is starting to get out of control.

Friend of mine is one of the "lucky" employees who still has to work but isn't getting paid. He's overdrawn on checking. The bank calls him 3-4 times a day to remind him to make a payment. He just took a $2,000 distribution from an old IRA he had, and cashed the check, because he doesn't want to put the check in the bank.

He's basically not paying any bills and using cash to pay for gas, groceries, etc. His credit card is just about maxed out.

And in the end, they are going to get all the money back they are owed from payroll. But, what about the tax and penalty he now owes on the IRA withdrawal? Even if he puts the money back into the account, he still owes it.

Emergency funds are important. We are learning so many don't have one.
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 10:54 am
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3663 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:28 am to
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Emergency funds are important.


I had this conversation with a guy in my office earlier this week. I wondered just how many people had literally no options in keeping their bills paid. I know that USAA is doing what they can to lend and help bridge the gap, as I'm sure other places are, but the hidden costs of interest, late fees, etc will certainly take their toll.

Its a shitty situation that I'm thankful to not be in. I've always thought that I'm ok with a little short term pain for long term gain (i'm certainly not advocating for or against a wall here, thats another topic for another place) but again thats an easy standpoint to take right now since I'm not the one having to endure the short term pain....

This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 11:30 am
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24154 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 12:27 pm to
The cluster will likely be a consideration for people working for the federal government or a contractor relying on the federal government going forward. Washington is only going to get more dysfunctional so I expect these shutdowns to become commonplace.
Posted by LSU
Houston
Member since Oct 2003
8836 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

Yeah, really isn't a solution for most responsible folks.


Agreed, but most responsible folks aren't really affected by having a couple paychecks delayed a little while.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

How can they get a payday loan when they don't know when payday will be?

I'll leave the politics to the Poli Board, but the financial implications of this to these employees is starting to get out of control.

Friend of mine is one of the "lucky" employees who still has to work but isn't getting paid. He's overdrawn on checking. The bank calls him 3-4 times a day to remind him to make a payment. He just took a $2,000 distribution from an old IRA he had, and cashed the check, because he doesn't want to put the check in the bank.

He's basically not paying any bills and using cash to pay for gas, groceries, etc. His credit card is just about maxed out.

And in the end, they are going to get all the money back they are owed from payroll. But, what about the tax and penalty he now owes on the IRA withdrawal? Even if he puts the money back into the account, he still owes it.

Emergency funds are important. We are learning so many don't have one.


Loan your buddy some money, man.

Posted by BARNEYSTINSON
Member since Oct 2011
773 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:46 pm to
Why not just go to one of the many reputable banks that are currently offering loans for federal employees on furlough?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

Friend of mine is one of the "lucky" employees who still has to work but isn't getting paid. He's overdrawn on checking. The bank calls him 3-4 times a day to remind him to make a payment. He just took a $2,000 distribution from an old IRA he had, and cashed the check, because he doesn't want to put the check in the bank.

He's basically not paying any bills and using cash to pay for gas, groceries, etc. His credit card is just about maxed out.

And in the end, they are going to get all the money back they are owed from payroll. But, what about the tax and penalty he now owes on the IRA withdrawal? Even if he puts the money back into the account, he still owes it.
I've followed your posts on the Money Board long enough to believe your above post is factual.

However, I have ZERO sympathy for your friend.

Any person who is healthy and has been in the workforce for a while but who has no savings for a short-term financial cushion completely deserves whatever financial angst he's going through. Especially in today's economy with under 4% unemployment.

Hell, I could walk down the street and have a temporary, part-time job paying me $9/hour before the end of the day today. I pay my yardman $50/hour!
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

I pay my yardman $50/hour!


You need a new yard guy bro
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

Friend of mine is one of the "lucky" employees who still has to work but isn't getting paid. He's overdrawn on checking. The bank calls him 3-4 times a day to remind him to make a payment. He just took a $2,000 distribution from an old IRA he had, and cashed the check, because he doesn't want to put the check in the bank.

He's basically not paying any bills and using cash to pay for gas, groceries, etc. His credit card is just about maxed out.

And in the end, they are going to get all the money back they are owed from payroll. But, what about the tax and penalty he now owes on the IRA withdrawal? Even if he puts the money back into the account, he still owes it.



I feel for this guy but how in the hell did he max out his CC plus $2000 IRA withdrawal in three weeks?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

You need a new yard guy bro
Nah, he does a great job.

But, I'm curious, are you saying I'm paying him too much or too little?
Posted by blzr
Keeneland
Member since Mar 2011
30099 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 2:01 pm to
Are you retarded?
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by Shankopotomus
Social Distanced
Member since Feb 2009
21057 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 2:18 pm to
I will say this ... did a little traveling recently (during shutdown) and the TSA workers were fairly friendly and it seemed business as usual (although maybe less of them)

Posted by TimeOutdoors
AK
Member since Sep 2014
12123 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

Agreed, but most responsible folks aren't really affected by having a couple paychecks delayed a little while.


And most skilled workers can easily find a second job and be paid extra during this time.
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