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Realistic Retirement Amount and Age
Posted on 5/31/17 at 8:31 am
Posted on 5/31/17 at 8:31 am
Going through looking at my accounts and calculating current trajectory... If I keep up what I am currently doing, I'm looking at $2.5m at age 60.
Good, bad, indifferent? Of course, I could go a little harder and swing that one way or the other (More $$$ at 60 or retire at lower age... although, I think I'd quickly get bored in retirement)
I think where I"m currently at allows me to blow money on experiences and live life, yet retire comfortably...
What is everyone's realistic target for retirement? Just curious where I stack up.
Good, bad, indifferent? Of course, I could go a little harder and swing that one way or the other (More $$$ at 60 or retire at lower age... although, I think I'd quickly get bored in retirement)
I think where I"m currently at allows me to blow money on experiences and live life, yet retire comfortably...
What is everyone's realistic target for retirement? Just curious where I stack up.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 8:51 am to Lsut81
Well if you are 59 years old you are looking good. If 21, not so much.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 8:52 am to Lsut81
You are on track/ahead of the pack. No idea from your post if you are maxing out contributions to plans you are in but would start there.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 8:52 am to Lsut81
If you have 2.5M at 60, and no significant debt, you should be able to live like a king and do whatever you want.
Should be able to do that on a lot less than that.
Should be able to do that on a lot less than that.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:02 am to PlanoPrivateer
"Well if you are 59 years old you are looking good. If 21, not so much."
Plano is exactly right. See time value of money.
What is todays value of a future 2.5 Million?
Plano is exactly right. See time value of money.
What is todays value of a future 2.5 Million?
This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 9:08 am
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:42 am to Lsut81
once your residual/semi-passive/passive income = or exceeds your bills you are technically retired.
When that happens is entirely up to you.
Or if you just want to draw down what you have stashed but I do not operate that way.
When that happens is entirely up to you.
Or if you just want to draw down what you have stashed but I do not operate that way.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:42 am to Lsut81
i plan to retire on my 8-9 ETH by 40
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:46 am to Lsut81
YOu will be able to live it up in retirement
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:51 am to Lsut81
Like others said - $2.5 million at 60 should be plenty but it depends on what you're accustomed to living on annually. If you're making $100k/year then that should be fine. If you're making $250k/year then you'll need some lifestyle changes.
It's all the concept of money in/money out and depends on how you manage your cash flow even in retirement. Judging by the fact that you're projected to have $2.5 million, you'll probably do a good job of managing it.
Currently I have a very similar projection of about $2.4 million but I have 30 years until retirement and it depends on how the market performs. I am assuming based on my current salary/employer match that a total of $15,000 will go into my 401k each year, and I'm assuming 8.0% - 8.5% annual return.
Not sure if it's reasonable, but it puts me in a better mindset of setting aside dollars each year.
It's all the concept of money in/money out and depends on how you manage your cash flow even in retirement. Judging by the fact that you're projected to have $2.5 million, you'll probably do a good job of managing it.
Currently I have a very similar projection of about $2.4 million but I have 30 years until retirement and it depends on how the market performs. I am assuming based on my current salary/employer match that a total of $15,000 will go into my 401k each year, and I'm assuming 8.0% - 8.5% annual return.
Not sure if it's reasonable, but it puts me in a better mindset of setting aside dollars each year.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:33 am to Lsut81
One caution about projecting the future value of investments, in my almost 40 years of investing I have not seen a single person whether financial professional or not correctly predict the future performance of an investment over a 20-30 year timeframe. I lived through the crashes of 1987, 2000, 9/11, 2008, etc, at retirement I had about half what I thought I would have had 30 years earlier, fortunately it was still enough.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:42 am to Fat Bastard
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once your residual/semi-passive/passive income = or exceeds your bills you are technically retired. When that happens is entirely up to you. Or if you just want to draw down what you have stashed but I do not operate that way.
This and only this.
When people make these net worth or account projection threads, they almost never discuss or think about the expense side.
Because I'm looking at leaving full time employment in a year or so, I've been sitting down with various advisors for the past couple of years. Any that only looked at my investments and the passive income that they threw off, and didn't put focus on my current and future expenses, I never called back or sat down with again.
There's an old joke: "I have exactly enough money to last me the rest of my life.... as long as I don't buy anything."
How much do you need in retirement? I don't know. How much will you spend?
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:12 am to Lsut81
Of course, where you plan to live and your lifestyle during retirement matter as well.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 2:35 pm to Lsut81
2.5 million 4% withdrawal is $100,000. If you got there through savings and keeping expenses down, good to go. If somehow you got there through massive income streams and sloppy expense management, maybe not so much. Single here and just retired from state one year early with 63% of income and was living on about 45% of my income. I am planning on continuing saving till i hit a million invest-able assets. My investments are sufficient now to self generate what I was putting in before retirement with average market returns.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 3:28 pm to Lsut81
I feel like I'll need/want $2M in today's money to retire. So as a 29 yr old that puts my realistic retirement age at about... 75.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 4:11 pm to Lsut81
A lot depends on what happens to SS and Medicare. I'm only 30, I used to think 1-1.5 million would get it done but I have no faith in Medicare or SS being there when I need them so 2 is my new goal. Got a long way to go...
Posted on 5/31/17 at 4:15 pm to Lsut81
Aren't you early to mid 30s?
I think 2.5M will be too little at 60, if 60 is 25 years away.
I think 2.5M will be too little at 60, if 60 is 25 years away.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 7:53 pm to Hawkeye95
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Aren't you early to mid 30s?
I think 2.5M will be too little at 60, if 60 is 25 years away.
Yes
That projection is me putting away 20k a year at 6% return on top of what I already currently have invested. Like I said, that was me keeping the status quo and still enjoying things while I'm saving. I could easily up it, but am currently under the idea of enjoying it bc I don't wanna save save save and never enjoy it.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 8:06 pm to Hawkeye95
Everybody at work generally says that you need 1 mil to retire. Of course, most guys out here are within 10 years of retirement. Does this mean 1 mil per person or 1 mil for a couple. I'm thinking 1 mil per person. If you have all of your bills paid and you only have insurances to pay for, how much per month do you really need? I talked to my money manager and he said I'm on track to make my money last until I'm 100 years old. Granted, I know I'll never get to 100 but I'm not ready to retire as of yet. I think that after you're about 70 years old, you pretty much live a comfortable life and not globe trotting. Most people I know that are 70 or above pretty much stay home and sit on the porch. This tells me that if you retire at 60, you will really be "living it up" for about 10 years. I make right at about 100k a year. I figure I need about 50K a year in retirement which should be around 4,500 a month. Actually, I think this should be plenty enough for retirement living. If there is surplus, I can always invest it back or do more. I think that people in their 20's or 30's should at least shoot for 2 to 3 mil in retirement because they need to compensate for SS not being there.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:28 pm to PhiTiger1764
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So as a 29 yr old that puts my realistic retirement age at about... 75.
i'm way older than you but let's face it we may all be screwed regardless. Social security says my retirement is at 72. LOLOLOLOL. You will go insane worrying about it. To hit my income goals in retirement i MAY have to work maybe until 65 or 70. Yes i have high goals....however.....i may lower them just so i can actually have some "actual" retirement years and enjoyment. We cannot take the money with you when we die and the older you get you WILL value quality time more and more.
You may have money when older but not be able to enjoy it at 75. we will be lucky to live to 80. so that is 5 years of retirement on the porch? LOL Who knows. You can do things now but maybe do not have the money to do them. it is a catch 22. I am pushing hard right now to at least reach my minimum of in case i say screw it i am shutting it down i can.
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