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PMI dropping off question

Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:12 pm
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
7490 posts
Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:12 pm
when my PMI is cancelled, will the amount I'm paying for it then go towards my principal? or will my monthly payment decrease?
Posted by DownSouthDave
Beau, Bro, Baw
Member since Jan 2013
7366 posts
Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:27 pm to
I would imagine that your payment will decrease. I couldn't imagine them automatically rolling it into your principal.
Posted by Bucktail1
Member since Feb 2015
3186 posts
Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:37 pm to
You have to request for it to be removed, it won't just fall off. You may even have to pay for your own appraisal to prove you now have 80% equity making you eligible to have it removed. They make it as hard as possible, it's a racket (I used to work for Chase mortgage)
Posted by Spec1
Lost but making good time
Member since Jan 2015
1983 posts
Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:44 pm to
They can take it off at 80% loan to value but aren't required until 78% loan to value. I worked at a local bank a few years ago and that was the rules then.
I walked in the day I hit 80% and asked to have it removed. It had to be approved by the board to get it dropped off and it was.
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 6/9/15 at 9:22 pm to
Write a letter requesting it to be removed, other advice is good as well.
Posted by lsutiger2010
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 11:40 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 11:56 am
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75152 posts
Posted on 6/9/15 at 11:49 pm to
Just spend the $450 and get an appraisal.
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 7:26 am to
The answer is not that straightforward.

First determine if you can get the PMI removed, the recent FHA loans have pmi for life.

If you can first call the lender to determine the process.

Then probably next will be pay for appraisal and once it's received write a letter.

Fwiw I have done this twice in the last several years.
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Member since Oct 2007
25397 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 7:27 am to
Remember PMI stays with the loan for life on FHA loans. Only way to remove it is refi conventional

Edit - beat me by a minute
This post was edited on 6/10/15 at 7:28 am
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 7:31 am to
Surely your monthly payment will just decrease.
Posted by LSU999
Member since Nov 2012
9116 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 12:15 pm to
When I refinanced a few years ago it just lowered the payment. On my own, I added it to the principle each month. I wanted PMI off, not because of how much my note was a month, but because it wasn't doing anything for me. I couldn't put 20% down at the time of purchase. If you have enough income that you can put it toward the principle, that is what I would do.
This post was edited on 6/10/15 at 12:17 pm
Posted by Ebrow21
Lutcher, La.
Member since Apr 2015
44 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 12:25 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/9/16 at 12:41 pm
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

I purchased my house about two years ago. The value of houses in my neighborhood have skyrocketed since. Can I just get an appraisal to see if what I currently owe is less than 80% on a new appraisal? Or would it require re-financing my loan to drop off PMI with a new appraisal?


Typically the contract is written that you have to pay off 20% of the original loan value, so the value of the house and property have no effect. However, it is simple enough to refinance now that you can if it makes sense.
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
7490 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 7:52 pm to
quote:

Remember PMI stays with the loan for life on FHA loans. Only way to remove it is refi conventional


This is true for newer loans. Not the case for mine
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
17040 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 11:39 am to
This is why you wait until you have 20%
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29273 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 4:27 pm to
At 80% you can request it. Your mortgage servicer will probably ask for an appraisal to make sure that the value has not declined since the original loan.

At 78% it automatically terminates.
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5060 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 4:48 pm to
Check your closing papers to see if there is an amortization schedule. Mine showed the number of payments with the PMI included, then the number or payments with a lower payment amount after PMI dropped off. There may be a minimum 5 year period before you can request the PMI removal, even if you are below the 80% before the 5 year period.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11794 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 4:51 pm to
Just like your insurance going up or down or property taxes going up, your escrow contributions change accordingly

If PMI goes away, your mortgage company will no longer bill you that amount

IE if you are paying $1600/mo for principle/intrest/PMI/Escrow and PMI cost you $200/mo, you mortgague company will bill you $1400/mo

if you choose to pay extra it will go to principle if you ask them to.
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52147 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

when my PMI is cancelled, will the amount I'm paying for it then go towards my principal? or will my monthly payment decrease?


They trying to get every penny out of you in interest. I guarantee that they won't apply it to principal
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
13847 posts
Posted on 6/12/15 at 9:17 am to
quote:


This is why you wait until you have 20%


Building equity and paying PMI > throwing rent money down the drain until you're 30 years old and have finally saved 20% to put down on a house.
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