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re: Official Erin Energy (ERN) thread
Posted on 6/18/15 at 7:28 am to southernelite
Posted on 6/18/15 at 7:28 am to southernelite
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:02 am to Iowa Golfer
I could see a squeeze today. If you assume the float is 9MM, and that has traded in a handful of days given the relatively low volume and cap, it could happen. No way to really know, but based on some quick math, it is possible.
What does your due diligence indicate about total float?
What does your due diligence indicate about total float?
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:52 am to Iowa Golfer
just started production from OYO-7 well
quote:
Erin Energy (ERN +8.9%) opens sharply higher on news it has started production from its Oyo-7 well offshore Nigeria, a second development well that also uncovered hydrocarbons in a deeper untapped reservoir.
ERN says it expects to double oil production from the Oyo field, of which ERN is operator with a 100% interest.
This post was edited on 6/18/15 at 8:54 am
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:57 am to Choctaw
I still expect it to settle back in the $6.5-$7 range. That range is optimistic given their revenue projections based on only OYO wells, but their potential with reserves allows it in my mind.
If it wasn't for management/cashflow/company past, the reserves could be valued significantly higher but I just don't see how you can do that without acknowledging the very real risk.
TL;DR
Given oil production and reserves, when adjusting for risk $6 is reasonable optimistic value in GenesChin's amateur mind
If it wasn't for management/cashflow/company past, the reserves could be valued significantly higher but I just don't see how you can do that without acknowledging the very real risk.
TL;DR
Given oil production and reserves, when adjusting for risk $6 is reasonable optimistic value in GenesChin's amateur mind
This post was edited on 6/18/15 at 9:01 am
Posted on 6/18/15 at 9:24 am to GenesChin
quote:
I still expect it to settle back in the $6.5-$7 range
i got in at $6.06. if i can get 10% i'll probably take it and bail.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 9:39 am to GenesChin
I wanted to make my first dancing bananas post, but somehow the gains have been erased in an hour. If ERN provided proof that a single drop of Lawal's tears could turn a gallon of water into gold, somehow the price would still drop. Heck, it'd probably drop to $3.
IG, there was a rather large bid-ask spread in this first hour of trading, and I noticed the spread was often large during the stock price decline over the past two weeks. Could you provide any insight into what that could mean? Generally it is supposed to happen when there is a low float or the stock is thinly traded. I haven't seen thin trading, and my rough calculations say the float should be 20-25 million shares, not including any shorted shares. So why have I seen large spreads?
IG, there was a rather large bid-ask spread in this first hour of trading, and I noticed the spread was often large during the stock price decline over the past two weeks. Could you provide any insight into what that could mean? Generally it is supposed to happen when there is a low float or the stock is thinly traded. I haven't seen thin trading, and my rough calculations say the float should be 20-25 million shares, not including any shorted shares. So why have I seen large spreads?
Posted on 6/18/15 at 10:02 am to Omada
I think there are a lot of shorts, and I don't think the float is as high as your calculations are saying. Maybe 9-10MM. And maybe 6-7MM as a functional float. Could be as much as 3MM shorted right now.
I'm almost wondering if PIC is getting back their original investment. I doubt that though.
The other thing about the spread is if you watch the trades, there are bunches of shares that move outside the inside spread. So hidden orders maybe?
No clue. Like most everything else in life that is good, this will take some time to play out. Hopefully in the direction some of us want.
Having said that, predicated on how you got in, everyone should still be up significantly on this, so no sense worrying about paper losses.
I'm almost wondering if PIC is getting back their original investment. I doubt that though.
The other thing about the spread is if you watch the trades, there are bunches of shares that move outside the inside spread. So hidden orders maybe?
No clue. Like most everything else in life that is good, this will take some time to play out. Hopefully in the direction some of us want.
Having said that, predicated on how you got in, everyone should still be up significantly on this, so no sense worrying about paper losses.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 10:39 am to Iowa Golfer
quote:
I don't think the float is as high as your calculations are saying. Maybe 9-10MM. And maybe 6-7MM as a functional float. Could be as much as 3MM shorted right now.
I was doing manual calculations: 57% ownership by Lawal, 30% by PIC, 2.5-3 million shares owned by upper management and BoD, ~1 million owned by institutions according to Nasdaq 13F information, an additional 1.5 million bought by Lawal, etc. That gave me a range of 22-24 million, but there are obvious limits (such as hedge funds either too small or exempt from filing a 13F with the SEC and any shorted shares).
Yahoo Finance says 9.93 million and TD Ameritrade says 11.3 million (since Yahoo also says 2 million are short, I will assume TDA did not cut the float by shorted shares). I think I'll leave the float calculations to those with more information than myself from now on.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:03 am to Louie T
Kinda new to this and probably a stupid question.
could you explain the relation between volume and stock price? does high volume usually push the price up?
feel free to explain it like you're talking to a 10 year old
could you explain the relation between volume and stock price? does high volume usually push the price up?
feel free to explain it like you're talking to a 10 year old
Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:18 am to Choctaw
Volume shows how strong a stock movement is. Think of a supply-demand graph in economics. Increased demand=price increases. Increased supply=price decreases. The volume, along with how much the price went up, should indicate how much increased demand there is. And the more demand there is, the harder it will be for the price to reverse because it'll take demand to drop and/or more supply to become available. Lighter volume=less demand to overcome for the price to reverse.
Make sense? If not, I can try to come up with an explanation for a 10 year old like you suggested, but let me think up a fart joke to use in it and whether I'll use superheroes or dinosaurs in my example.
Make sense? If not, I can try to come up with an explanation for a 10 year old like you suggested, but let me think up a fart joke to use in it and whether I'll use superheroes or dinosaurs in my example.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 11:01 am to Omada
quote:
Volume shows how strong a stock movement is. Think of a supply-demand graph in economics. Increased demand=price increases. Increased supply=price decreases. The volume, along with how much the price went up, should indicate how much increased demand there is. And the more demand there is, the harder it will be for the price to reverse because it'll take demand to drop and/or more supply to become available. Lighter volume=less demand to overcome for the price to reverse.
Make sense? If not, I can try to come up with an explanation for a 10 year old like you suggested, but let me think up a fart joke to use in it and whether I'll use superheroes or dinosaurs in my example.
said a different way....
increased volume shows conviction in the move whether it be up or down....
Posted on 6/19/15 at 2:24 pm to Choctaw
I bought a shitload of shares at 4.55 2 days ago... Gonna try to hold em !
Posted on 6/22/15 at 7:25 am to Zilla
Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:50 pm to Omada
I read the article but being young and new to Finance, can someone explain what that means going forward for ERN?
Thanks
Thanks
Posted on 6/22/15 at 2:24 pm to MSU4ever
Any Russell 3000 ETFs will now have to include ERN, and if ERN is placed in the 2000 small cap index, those ETFs will have to purchase it as well- enough shares to be equal to the benchmark weighting. So if ERN is, say, 0.2% of the benchmark, then the ETFs need to have 0.2% of all of their assets in ERN. Any institutions that purchase stocks that are in the Russell 3000 can also now purchase ERN stock, though that is entirely at their discretion.
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