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Living frugally as a student - question for the MT folks
Posted on 8/10/15 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 8/10/15 at 3:36 pm
I'm going into my last nine months of schooling. I'll have ~$100k in debt when it's all said and done for a bachelors, law degree, and an LLM. I expect to make anywhere from $70-90k coming out of school.
I'm looking at places to live and I'd like to splurge an extra $100/month and live some place that's pretty nice. Little out of my price range. And I would have to take out extra loans. My monthly total expenses (including this place will be around $1100-$1200). That includes everything. Car note, utilities, apartment, food, and some spending money.
Is any of the above completely unreasonable? There's also a good chance the military will be paying for a decent % of my student loans, but I'm trying to prepare as if I will have to pay everything myself
I'm looking at places to live and I'd like to splurge an extra $100/month and live some place that's pretty nice. Little out of my price range. And I would have to take out extra loans. My monthly total expenses (including this place will be around $1100-$1200). That includes everything. Car note, utilities, apartment, food, and some spending money.
Is any of the above completely unreasonable? There's also a good chance the military will be paying for a decent % of my student loans, but I'm trying to prepare as if I will have to pay everything myself
This post was edited on 8/10/15 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 8/10/15 at 3:41 pm to TheOcean
Its all relative, how much nice of a place does 100 get you? You are talking on the scale of an extra 1k for the rest of your school. Thats not much. If its a substantial upgrade go for it.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 3:45 pm to TheOcean
How "upmarket" you need to live to be comfortable depends on your location. But $100/month is a pretty small price to pay for happiness.
Please, do not take out a bar study loan. It seems easy to pay back but it kicked my arse for a few years. In what field is your LLM?
Please, do not take out a bar study loan. It seems easy to pay back but it kicked my arse for a few years. In what field is your LLM?
This post was edited on 8/10/15 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 8/10/15 at 3:48 pm to barry
Way hotter women, nicer apartment, etc. I think it's worth it. I've been freaking out about money lately, so I wanted to see if I'm being unreasonable
Posted on 8/10/15 at 3:50 pm to GaryMyMan
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Please, do not take out a bar study loan. It seems easy to pay back but it kicked my arse for a few years. In what field is your LLM?
Unfortunately had to take out the bar study loan. It's the only private loans I have right now. Plan on putting the majority of my first year's paycheck towards it. Didn't want to stress out about money during the bar. And tax.
This post was edited on 8/10/15 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 8/10/15 at 3:55 pm to GaryMyMan
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Please, do not take out a bar study loan.
I did that. But I also came out in 2011 and it took me 6 months to find a job.
That was the easy loan to pay off
Posted on 8/10/15 at 3:56 pm to TheOcean
God dammit. It's a good thing you're getting a degree that is worth a shite (not the JD ). My bar study was $12k @ 13.25% and took way longer than I thought it would to pay off. Life got in the way of putting the majority of my paycheck toward it.
I also came out in 2011. Signed a year lease on a great penthouse apartment in the Lower Garden District and promptly found a job... in Shreveport. It was pretty baller to have a weekend place in NOLA but I'm not quite sure it was worth it.
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I also came out in 2011 and it took me 6 months to find a job.
I also came out in 2011. Signed a year lease on a great penthouse apartment in the Lower Garden District and promptly found a job... in Shreveport. It was pretty baller to have a weekend place in NOLA but I'm not quite sure it was worth it.
This post was edited on 8/10/15 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 8/10/15 at 3:59 pm to GaryMyMan
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My bar study was $12k @ 13.25%
shite is criminal. I get stressed out even thinking about it
The goal is to live on $2k/month post grad and pay off the loans as quickly as possible.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 4:04 pm to TheOcean
I'd say go for it. Might not be the most frugal decision, but thinking back now, I'd give up 10k now for an extra 5k in spending money back when I was in professional school.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 4:08 pm to TheOcean
$100/mo seems paltry, but what if you were saving it rather than spending it, or didn't have to borrow the extra $1K? Whazzup w/bar study loans? If you sit for the summer exam in July, you've got maybe two months of expenses to cover between graduation & the exam. And if results are back in October, you can work while waiting to find out if you pass.
Three months of work (at anything) is a better life experience and financial choice than borrowing $$ and doing little/nothing. My better half shuffled commercial paper (glorified clerk) at the Whitney bank between graduation & passing the bar (part time during bar review & studying, FT after exam while waiting for results)...why would you not start working as a temp paralegal or similar paraprofessional for the interim?
+1 for military loan repayment. great program.
Three months of work (at anything) is a better life experience and financial choice than borrowing $$ and doing little/nothing. My better half shuffled commercial paper (glorified clerk) at the Whitney bank between graduation & passing the bar (part time during bar review & studying, FT after exam while waiting for results)...why would you not start working as a temp paralegal or similar paraprofessional for the interim?
+1 for military loan repayment. great program.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 4:34 pm to GaryMyMan
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My bar study was $12k @ 13.25%
Good god. I think I took out 7.5k but the rate was almost half that.
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I also came out in 2011. Signed a year lease on a great penthouse apartment in the Lower Garden District and promptly found a job... in Shreveport. It was pretty baller to have a weekend place in NOLA but I'm not quite sure it was worth it.
Whoops!
I had just started dating a girl and shacked up in her bed room for most of that period. Spent some time at my Dad's in Mississippi. I paid her back this past March when I married her.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 4:36 pm to Ric Flair
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I'd say go for it. Might not be the most frugal decision, but thinking back now, I'd give up 10k now for an extra 5k in spending money back when I was in professional school.
This is what I'm thinking. I've lived pretty damn frugally throughout my student years. What's another 1-2k?
Posted on 8/10/15 at 4:37 pm to hungryone
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Three months of work (at anything) is a better life experience and financial choice than borrowing $$ and doing little/nothing. My better half shuffled commercial paper (glorified clerk) at the Whitney bank between graduation & passing the bar (part time during bar review & studying, FT after exam while waiting for results)...why would you not start working as a temp paralegal or similar paraprofessional for the interim?
Didn't have the option of working. LLM program starts soon. Otherwise I definitely would have. Hopefully your wife is bringing in the big bucks now
Posted on 8/10/15 at 7:53 pm to TheOcean
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Didn't have the option of working. LLM program starts soon. Otherwise I definitely would have. Hopefully your wife is bringing in the big bucks now
Nope, he's a bleeding heart public defender whose public,interest loan forgiveness kicks in during mid 2017. Money is not time, and we'd both rather have free time than fancier stuff. Old, paid for stuff is fine as we'd rather have time and spare change to travel. Chasing bucks doesn't make either of us happy. Hope you find a path that makes you happy, regardless of the pay level.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 8:32 pm to hungryone
More power to you. I don't have time to use my nice shite, but by God I want nice shite
Posted on 8/11/15 at 11:19 am to TheOcean
I can't really answer your original quesiton, but
I'd say that's incredibly good. A nice place to live, plus all that other stuff and you're still around 1200...man. That's actually really impressive. You must eat dirt cheap.
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monthly total expenses (including this place will be around $1100-$1200). That includes everything. Car note, utilities, apartment, food, and some spending money.
I'd say that's incredibly good. A nice place to live, plus all that other stuff and you're still around 1200...man. That's actually really impressive. You must eat dirt cheap.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 11:32 am to TheOcean
quote:yes I would be too if I was 100k in debt
I've been freaking out about money lately
Posted on 8/11/15 at 11:40 am to WG_Dawg
Buy in bulk from sams club: fruits, veggies, and meats. Comes out to like $200/month in food and extremely healthy. I also eat the same thing daily; I realize a lot of people can't do that
It's all relative. $100k for a BA/JD/LLM really isn't that bad. Not ideal for sure. Even if I come out making $60k (low end), I'll like be working in a state with no income tax and a very lost COL. If the military doesn't pan out, I could easily kill $100k in loans within 5 years.
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yes I would be too if I was 100k in debt
It's all relative. $100k for a BA/JD/LLM really isn't that bad. Not ideal for sure. Even if I come out making $60k (low end), I'll like be working in a state with no income tax and a very lost COL. If the military doesn't pan out, I could easily kill $100k in loans within 5 years.
This post was edited on 8/11/15 at 11:53 am
Posted on 8/11/15 at 12:02 pm to TheOcean
Eh, I'd personally say wait out the 9 months, get your job down first, make sure you're making what you expect, then get the nice cushy apartment and some fun spending/upgrading. The concern I would have for you is assuming you have a job when it sounds to me like you do not have a job lined up yet, then racking up significantly extra debt because you already upgraded your living situation, etc
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