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LIBOR Scandal

Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:12 am
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:12 am
Is it something you're familiar with?

Or not?

Posted by nelatf
NELA
Member since Jan 2011
2296 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:17 am to
I don't care because my libor based liabilities that I manager have a low cost and I am not encumbered with stupid derivative make whole positions.

My problem could be when there is a rise in rates - am I properly match funded and/or do I have a proper hedge plan in place ?
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:37 am to
You're gonna care when the global bubble pops.
Posted by nelatf
NELA
Member since Jan 2011
2296 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:53 am to
If it does it does....I have done the best that I can do to protect the assets of the group I work for. Additionally, I believe I am well positioned with my personal investments and retirement if "the global bubble pops".

Life is too short to be worried about everything all the time. Plan accordingly, surround yourself with people that have experience, good analytical skills and some comment sense and you will be OK.



Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27824 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:37 am to
quote:

You're gonna care when the global bubble pops.


So you don't really know what you're talking about.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:40 am to
I am.

I am also familiar with you being a poor debater with minimal intellect. So, in light of that, please tell me more about your knowledge.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:57 am to
Another yes here.

Awaiting OP's point.
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 10:58 am
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80232 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:12 am to
Yeah, I'm vaguely familiar with it.

Collusion to manipulate it or something to that effect...?
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:33 am to
Somewhat familiar with it. Why do you ask?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:33 am to
quote:

You're gonna care when the global bubble pops.
I can't wait to learn from you how a couple of basis points difference in LIBOR is going to cause a global bubble to pop.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:04 pm to
And that is how you handle a troll.

Good job MT Board.
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5600 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

Is it something you're familiar with?

Very.

Are you?
Posted by schexyoung
Deaf Valley
Member since May 2008
6534 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:40 pm to
Hey since we are talking about banking and the OP is long gone, what is the going rate for a senior ERM position at a $10 Billion dollar institution?

Got offered a nice position, but I'm coming out of five years of audit with a focus on data analytics and forensic work.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 9:38 am to
quote:

And that is how you handle a troll. Good job MT Board.
This was a typical MoSleepingGrayTigerBack thread.

Start a thread with zero knowledge or experience in the topic of the thread just to appear intelligent and get up being pwned by other posters.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67089 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 10:03 am to
Yes, i wrote several research papers on it. Very scary stuff how a dozen or so people with no oversight could control and manipulate the entire monetary system of the world.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:28 am to
quote:

Very scary stuff how a dozen or so people with no oversight could control and manipulate the entire monetary system of the world.




Take that to the poliboard where they don't know better, you'll have more luck there.
This post was edited on 6/6/14 at 11:29 am
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5600 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

Yes, i wrote several research papers on it.

What were your conclusions in these papers and why?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67089 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 6:12 pm to
The ability of bankers to manipulate the libor was based on the complete ineptitude of regulatory oversight and the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act which had kept investment houses and commercial banks from operating under the same roof. It only would take half a dozen people acting in unison at the world's largest banks to manipulate the libor rate up or down. Such actions on large portfolios of assets could increase or decrease the value of large portfolios of libor based assets (like those of many municipal and corporate pension program trusts) by the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars per day.

With time and greater collusion comes value manipulations that can increase by orders of magnitude per day. Spread out over several years, it absolutely could have had an effect on the market. What exactly the effect of that manipulation was can never truly be quanitified as the actual extent of manipulation remains unknown. However, it has already forced the resignation of many high level executives at the largest international banks as well as record fines for Barklay's among others.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 6:21 pm to
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(like those of many municipal and corporate pension program trusts)
Why wouldn't it be a zero-sum game?
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 7:15 pm to
quote:

complete ineptitude of regulatory oversight


This I'll agree with, cross-checks should have been in place.

quote:

the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act


Please explain how a US law covers the London InterBank Offered Rate.
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