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Law school students or Lawyers, how did you study for the LSAT?
Posted on 1/1/16 at 11:02 am
Posted on 1/1/16 at 11:02 am
Posting on money talk for the sake of serious replies. For the past month or so I have been mulling over law school. I am in grad school full time right now and should be finished by July. I have finally decided today that I want to practice law. I'm not looking for life advice or the current out look of the lawyer profession. I just want to see if I can get tips and advice on how to study for the LSAT. I plan on taking it in October and my goal score is 165. I work full time but my schedule is flexible but taking the classroom course is out of the question since the closest one to me is an hour away. Also is the LSAT anything like the GRE? TIA and happy New Years!
ETA: Why am I getting downvotes?
ETA: Why am I getting downvotes?
This post was edited on 1/1/16 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 1/1/16 at 2:07 pm to 13SaintTiger
I took the class and tons of practice test. Think the class was Princeton review but that was 15 years ago.
I did really well on lsat but decided against law school
I did really well on lsat but decided against law school
Posted on 1/1/16 at 2:18 pm to yellowfin
How much help was the class? Could you have done without it and substituted your own study regiment? I just don't think I can fit the class in my schedule with it being an hour away but if it gives me that much of an advantage then I will have to think really hard about it.
This post was edited on 1/1/16 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 1/1/16 at 2:56 pm to 13SaintTiger
Practice tests abound, and so do quality paper and online study guides. If you lack the self discipline and comprehension skills to prep for the test yourself, then you should probably forget law school. Just my two cents, but it's not like you're 14 and taking the SATs for the first time. Law school is a long, tedious slog...if you can't prep for the test on your own, you will struggle mightily.
NB If you've never taken symbolic logic or a similar formal logic class, definitely brush up cause it will be Greek to you otherwise.
NB If you've never taken symbolic logic or a similar formal logic class, definitely brush up cause it will be Greek to you otherwise.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 3:15 pm to 13SaintTiger
Get the Powerscore books, and then practice, practice, practice on old tests.
The logic games is the most learnable section, followed by logical reasoning.
If you really want to go down the rabbit hole there is an LSAT prep forum on toplawschools.com. Beware though, as that site is rife with neurotic freaks, but there is a lot of good info as well.
The logic games is the most learnable section, followed by logical reasoning.
If you really want to go down the rabbit hole there is an LSAT prep forum on toplawschools.com. Beware though, as that site is rife with neurotic freaks, but there is a lot of good info as well.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 3:48 pm to RabidTiger
Thank you Rabid. How do you think the powers core trilogy compares to the Princeton review course?
This post was edited on 1/1/16 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 1/1/16 at 3:48 pm to yellowfin
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I took the class
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I did really well on lsat but decided against law school
Posted on 1/1/16 at 4:13 pm to RabidTiger
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logic games is the most learnable section, followed by logical reasoning.
I took the Princeton review class solely to learn the games section. In theory that was a wise decision, in practice not so much. Everyone in my class was an idiot. More than half would cause the class to come to a grinding halt by asking dumb questions. Furthermore, there was so much class time that I was too burnt out to study much on my own. I did great in every section... except for games. Long story short: buy some practice books, ease into it and reserve lots of study time.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 5:16 pm to 13SaintTiger
Everyone's situation is different but I'd say to pass on law school.
Job market is terrible. Will be hard for you unless you already have connections.
Also scholarship or if the school is paid for, will be a difference maker
Hell take the LSAT and see how you do. See if you get scholarships.
That being said. LSAT nothing like law school.
Job market is terrible. Will be hard for you unless you already have connections.
Also scholarship or if the school is paid for, will be a difference maker
Hell take the LSAT and see how you do. See if you get scholarships.
That being said. LSAT nothing like law school.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 5:20 pm to 13SaintTiger
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How do you think the powers core trilogy compares to the Princeton review course?
The powerscore trilogy is much better. I think generally dedicated self study is better than taking a course, but that is dependent upon the individual.
Having said that, the Princeton Review and Kaplan methods are plainly inferior to Powerscore and testmasters.
I would spend some time on the aforementioned forum here if you are serious. Check out some of the guides. It looks like there are more resources and companies available now than when I took it 7 or 8 years ago.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 6:17 pm to 13SaintTiger
I took a couple of practice tests and my score improved 3 points there wasn't a whole lot of room left though
With regard to curricula, there's basically a whole "branch" of LSAT courses that descend from Testmasters. Both Powerscore and Blueprint are former Testmasters and having read PS books and gone through instructor training with the other two I can vouch for their approaches all being very similar. I think BP's games book is better than the PS games book, but BP doesn't have materials for arguments and PS does (I don't think TM sells their stuff standalone yet). Or you could ask around and see whose local instructor comes recommended , since it might be worth getting a few hours of tutoring in lieu of a class (which has all the pitfalls mentioned above).
The LSAT reading comp and GRE reading comp are similar, but the arguments and especially the games are their own animals so you can't rely on GRE experience.
Also, I know you already rejected these replies, but don't go to law school. (If you can break 170, do teach the LSAT, it's a fun job and I wish I'd done it longer).
With regard to curricula, there's basically a whole "branch" of LSAT courses that descend from Testmasters. Both Powerscore and Blueprint are former Testmasters and having read PS books and gone through instructor training with the other two I can vouch for their approaches all being very similar. I think BP's games book is better than the PS games book, but BP doesn't have materials for arguments and PS does (I don't think TM sells their stuff standalone yet). Or you could ask around and see whose local instructor comes recommended , since it might be worth getting a few hours of tutoring in lieu of a class (which has all the pitfalls mentioned above).
The LSAT reading comp and GRE reading comp are similar, but the arguments and especially the games are their own animals so you can't rely on GRE experience.
Also, I know you already rejected these replies, but don't go to law school. (If you can break 170, do teach the LSAT, it's a fun job and I wish I'd done it longer).
This post was edited on 1/2/16 at 11:46 am
Posted on 1/1/16 at 6:27 pm to HailToTheChiz
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Everyone's situation is different but I'd say to pass on law school.
Job market is terrible. Will be hard for you unless you already have connections.
Also scholarship or if the school is paid for, will be a difference maker
Hell take the LSAT and see how you do. See if you get scholarships.
That being said. LSAT nothing like law school.
Not to be disrespectful but these are the type of suggestions I do not want in this thread, I merely want to know the best ways to study for the LSAT.
I have a great job as it is and will obtain my masters here shortly. My job will pay for law school (while still keeping my salary) if I obtain a certain LSAT score. So this is more of me trying to achieve personal goals, I wouldn't rely on my law degree for work.
This post was edited on 1/1/16 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 1/1/16 at 7:16 pm to 13SaintTiger
Have you taken a practice test yet, if so what was your score and best/worst sections?
Posted on 1/1/16 at 7:20 pm to Iosh
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Have you taken a practice test yet, if so what was your score and best/worst sections?
I have not taken a practice test as of yet, I recently made this decision and am now gathering all the info I can to help with practicing and studying for the LSAT. I will start studying by the end of this month, I plan to take the LSAT in June or October depending on how I feel by the end of April.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 7:39 pm to 13SaintTiger
Take a practice test cold as soon as you can. That will let you know first of all if 165 is realistic (it's rare even with serious effort to get a 15+ rise) and also let you know where your weaknesses are. I assume that won't be reading comp because you're in grad school
This post was edited on 1/1/16 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 1/2/16 at 11:22 am to 13SaintTiger
There is only so much you can do to improve your reading comp. How much you can improve your logic is based on how much logic you already have (I took an Intro to Logic course in college which far outstripped the rudimentary logic needed on the LSAT). Logic games is where you need to put in the work. There are some "tricks" to learn, but most importantly, you just have to do a metric frickton of them in practice. I didn't practice them nearly enough, so when I took the LSAT, I got every single question correct on the Games section I answered... but didn't get to 8-10 questions because I was simply taking too damned long. With more practice, I would have been much quicker.
With that said, my score was still good enough to get a partial scholarship at LSU (I destroyed the other three sections of the LSAT) and had I received any better of a scholarship I would have lost it because of the silly-high GPA requirement to maintain, so I suppose all's well that ends well
With that said, my score was still good enough to get a partial scholarship at LSU (I destroyed the other three sections of the LSAT) and had I received any better of a scholarship I would have lost it because of the silly-high GPA requirement to maintain, so I suppose all's well that ends well
This post was edited on 1/2/16 at 11:23 am
Posted on 1/3/16 at 1:49 pm to 13SaintTiger
Princeton review offers free simulated exams that come with a full score breakdown (and a sales pitch).
I did that, got a score cold on a practice test I was very happy with. I did a couple other self simulated full exams and called it a day.
I'd highly recommend doing the simulated exam at one of the companies just to get a true feel for the whole test.
I did that, got a score cold on a practice test I was very happy with. I did a couple other self simulated full exams and called it a day.
I'd highly recommend doing the simulated exam at one of the companies just to get a true feel for the whole test.
Posted on 1/3/16 at 3:03 pm to Iosh
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That will let you know first of all if 165 is realistic (it's rare even with serious effort to get a 15+ rise) and also let you know where your weaknesses are.
To OP -- don't let a bad cold first-run score get you down.
I dated a girl in college who took the LSAT on the old scoring system (48 being a perfect score). She took a cold test and scored a 30 (approx. 50th percentile). She then took Kaplan and got a 44 (approx. 95th percentile) when it mattered. She went to Columbia Law.
Posted on 1/3/16 at 4:21 pm to 13SaintTiger
I used something called the lsat bible I believe. It had full tests with answers and an explanation for why they were the answers. i thought it was very helpful. The timing was the most important thing to get down though in my opinion so you really have got to do as many practice tests as you can in a timed setting.
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