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Is Wall Street holding the economy hostage?

Posted on 5/26/15 at 3:27 pm
Posted by Dodd
Member since Oct 2003
21048 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 3:27 pm
It's a question, possibly a stupid one, but why do the markets keep dropping because there is talk of interest rate hikes?

Isnt the economy worthy of an interest uptick or is the economy strength only in large markets whereas the country as a whole is still lagging in growth?
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30571 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 3:32 pm to
Interest rates increasing decreases overall spending, which slows the economy. Therefore businesses become less profitable, and so stock is not worth as much bc the businesses are reporting decreased profits

A threat of increased interest threatens the above, so people sell stock more than they buy, causing increased supply and decreased demand, effectively diminishing the overall market value
Posted by Dodd
Member since Oct 2003
21048 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 4:04 pm to
If money is in high demand, wouldn't a higher cost of capital be expected? then that higher cost passed onto the consumer so as not to substantially impact profits? Isn't that the basic concept of US economics?

I guess a better question is will the Fed increase rates even if Wall Street sells off?

Again, I may be talking out my arse. Just trying to understand.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30571 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 4:10 pm to
The higher cost of capital could be passed on to the consumer, yes, but only as a reaction, and things like that take time. There would be an initial loss of profits for sure, which would result in the scenario I said before. And I dont know that the cost WOULD be passed to the consumer because the whole point is that the consumers stopped spending as much due to increased costs in other areas (interest), so they probably would spend even less if prices increased across the board, at least from my understanding and common sense
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4584 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 6:38 pm to
Also an increase in interest rates will make an increase in demand for U.S. Treasuries for foreign nations as well, mostly since the rest of the world's sovereign debt is at a lower rate than we are.

So therefore it will create an even stronger U.S. Dollar and will also weaken profits.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4584 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 6:51 pm to
And yes the Fed has their specific criteria to meet to be able to raise interest rates, which has nothing to do what Wall St thinks or believes. Greenspan did it and ignored Wall St reaction. Janet Yellen however is obviously more sensitive to how Wall St is reacting to their meetings and taking that into account when it doesn't necessarily matter to them.
Posted by raw dog
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
483 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 7:17 am to
Increased interest rates chase money from stock market to fixed income market.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:09 am to
Another interesting note is that due to historically low interest rates, there has been a flight from fixed income securities to equities to chase yield. I would expect there to be a noticeable dip in the "Dividend Stocks" over time after interest rates change
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51905 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

So therefore it will create an even stronger U.S. Dollar and will also weaken profits.


Only if they sell internationally FWIW

Ones that import the raw materials and sell domestically make a killing.
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