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is the price per barrel of oil dropping a bad thing?

Posted on 12/17/14 at 4:24 am
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Member since Feb 2006
11648 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 4:24 am
years ago the economic state of either japan/china (don't remember which) got so bad that the interest rate dropped to around the 1% range. Is this the same situation? I'm not as versed in econ as others so a little patience. tia.
Posted by oR33Do
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2012
13561 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 4:52 am to
How is more money in your pocket a bad thing?
Posted by TigerSaint1
Member since Apr 2014
1479 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 6:54 am to
Could be for South La refineries, as in Exxon, Marathon, etc.... Some of these plants were looking into some pretty big expansion in the near future and the falling prices of oil will likely have a direct effect on their decisions.
Posted by joeleblanc
Member since Jan 2012
4114 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:19 am to
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Could be for South La refineries, as in Exxon, Marathon, etc.... Some of these plants were looking into some pretty big expansion in the near future and the falling prices of oil will likely have a direct effect on their decisions.


Not. Refineries will always be working as products always need to be produced.
This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 7:24 am
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9933 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:46 am to
It actually helps refineries because the raw product is cheaper.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:48 am to
Good for individuals, bad for the oil and gas industry.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97615 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:56 am to
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bad for the oil and gas industry.


and any industry that depends on the oil and gas industry


which in cities like Lafayette is everything
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19583 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:01 am to
Sure as shite is for me. I went from to many offers to pick from to all of them putting freezes on or resending them.

Starting back with the calls and resumes tomorrow. Anyone have any leads let me know, would be greatly appreciated.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27817 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:34 am to
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Could be for South La refineries


Maybe some short term margins issues, but this is great news for the refineries. Demand will likely shoot through the roof as costs continue to fall.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80762 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:38 am to
Bad for Louisiana...I'd rather Louisiana be booming than the average american have a few hundred extra dollars to spend each year
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32089 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:46 am to
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Could be for South La refineries, as in Exxon, Marathon, etc.... Some of these plants were looking into some pretty big expansion in the near future and the falling prices of oil will likely have a direct effect on their decisions.



I honestly wouldn't get used to lower fuel prices. Next year at this time we could be in a completely different situation.
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
16901 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:02 am to
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Bad for Louisiana...I'd rather Louisiana be booming than the average american have a few hundred extra dollars to spend each year


this

frankly, i wonder if the government ever does shite like this because they hate us and Texas
Posted by jso0003
Member since Jun 2009
5170 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:20 am to
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frankly, i wonder if the government ever does shite like this because they hate us and Texas


Uhhhh, the federal government doesn't exactly wake up and decide to raise or lower the price of oil.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19239 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:22 am to
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Next year at this time we could be in a completely different situation


Thinking about buying some trash cans and filling them with gasoline while the price is low
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27817 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:27 am to
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Next year at this time we could be in a completely different situation

I don't think so. If anything prices will be lower. Production is going to continue to rise for at least year or so no matter the price simply due to projects underway.
Posted by jso0003
Member since Jun 2009
5170 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:32 am to
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67009 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 10:21 am to
bad for upstream, bad for midstream (assuming drops in domestic production outweighs cost-savings for transportation), good for downstream (cheap feed stock)
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14723 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 10:25 am to
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Good for individuals, bad for the oil and gas industry and those employed in it.




FIFY.


My guess is that it is either a shock to the market and prices will stabilize, or like some had suggested, if the prices the past 4 years were from a monetary policy and now we are seeing the actual price, I would suspect the government to create another monetary policy to drive prices back up (not to the old level, but still up).
Posted by BobRoss
Member since Jun 2014
1694 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 10:53 am to
I haven't seen a negative impact in midstream. The correlation might be there, but I imagine it's not as immediate as the production/exploration side.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162202 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 11:33 am to
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It actually helps refineries because the raw product is cheaper.


Correct

It's the upstream industry that is selling the product that will suffer

I'd say refining companies like Valero and Tesoro will be looking good

Most of the majors are diversified in upstream and downstream investments. I don't know that it would be a wash for them but I'd have to think they'll at least tread water for now. It could definitely make the majors rethink some of their large scale upstream investments though.
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