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re: Is joining a union the way to go?

Posted on 7/8/12 at 10:06 am to
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37715 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 10:06 am to
Thank you for the history lesson I specifically asked not to hear.
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 10:10 am to
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What happened to the middle class? Maybe,there is a direct correlation between the decline of unions over the past 35 years and the decline of the middle class’s share of national income.


Or maybe the inflexibility of unions with regards to wages and benefits led to the downfall of American manufacturing and many middle class blue collar jobs disappeared?
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
8968 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 10:12 am to
I'd argue that Union greed and ridiculous wage/benefit structures for uneducated and minimally skilled workers robbed American companies of their ability to compete in a global economy. As a result, those "middle class" jobs you refer to have been shifted overseas. In addition, those Union practices increased the operating costs of those companies which is ultimately passed along to the consumer by means of inflated pricing. Unions are not only bad for business, but also bad for the economy as a whole.
This post was edited on 7/8/12 at 10:17 am
Posted by Tigah1
Member since Oct 2009
85 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 10:15 am to
Well in that case let me sit back and enjoy my triple time for a 7th report today! I'm enjoying my union benefits....try some you might like it!
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 11:15 am to
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Well in that case let me sit back and enjoy my triple time for a 7th report today! I'm enjoying my union benefits


I ain't mad at cha. Get yours and do you.

I think everyone here is all for rational economic decision making.

Just don't pretend that unions and the advantages they get under federal and state law are good for everyone economically.
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25741 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 11:29 am to
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Tigah1

Just because something was good historically, does not mean it is a positive entity in its current state.
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
30922 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 12:17 pm to
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Well in that case let me sit back and enjoy my triple time for a 7th report today! I'm enjoying my union benefits....try some you might like it!

and youll keep on enjoying those benefits right up until the union breaks the company - and then youll have to hope a liberal is in the white house to bail you out
Posted by Tigah1
Member since Oct 2009
85 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 1:18 pm to
Unlike the UAW ...my company won't need bail out. It's been here long before you and will be here long after you. Most Unions have very good contracts for both the company and worker. To ensure success for everyone. out of all the Unions one has a problem so all get lumped into that category? I'm sure if you were making union wages and benefits you wouldn't be against the union!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422689 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 1:19 pm to
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I'm sure if you were making union wages and benefits you wouldn't be against the union!

what about those who excel within the company and can't advance due to unions basing everything on seniority?

why would i join a group that prevents me from advancing and making well more than "union wages" ?
Posted by fandyke
Member since Dec 2009
135 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 1:20 pm to
If i knew who you were, i would break your jaw!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422689 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 1:22 pm to
assuming your post isn't a troll attempt, why?
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37715 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 1:23 pm to
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If i knew who you were, i would break your jaw!



Ah. You must have the brains of a union worker.
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 1:30 pm to
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If i knew who you were, i would break your jaw!


Because he's right and you can't win this argument?

Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
8968 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 1:43 pm to
Lol... No you wouldn't, you'd have to ask the steward first who will then check to be sure you paying dues. Then he would go through an arbitration process and ultimately tell you it's not part of the bargaining agreement...

By joining a union you've acknowledged that your inacapable of thinking for yourself and are willing to pay someone to do it for you.

This post was edited on 7/8/12 at 1:55 pm
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37715 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 1:56 pm to
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By joining a union you've acknowledged that your inacapable of thinking for yourself and are willing to pay someone to do it for you.



I can't wait to use this line.
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
30922 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 2:44 pm to
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why would i join a group that prevents me from advancing and making well more than "union wages" ?



:crickets:
Posted by Tigah1
Member since Oct 2009
85 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 3:50 pm to
Sorry, I was enjoying the fruits of my Union labor. you don't have to be stuck making "union wages" you can o right ahead and enjoy being poor! By joining the union I'm getting my 6 figure salary every year. I don't have any problems with that!
This post was edited on 7/8/12 at 3:53 pm
Posted by Tigah1
Member since Oct 2009
85 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 3:58 pm to
I can't believe all this jealousy towards he union...don't knock it I'll ya tried it! Maybe , if y'all got in a union,you could make some mony an actually have a nice life worth living. But no y'all play on a message board all day. I've met my yearly limit for post here! Rain stopped I have to get back on the course....I might break par today!
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37715 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 4:06 pm to
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Sorry, I was enjoying the fruits of my Union labor. you don't have to be stuck making "union wages" you can o right ahead and enjoy being poor! By joining the union I'm getting my 6 figure salary every year. I don't have any problems with that!
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 7/8/12 at 4:10 pm to
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Tigah1

trolling hard

your spelling and arguments certainly are awful for a guy with a six-figure job
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