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IRS raised contributions limits for 2024

Posted on 11/1/23 at 5:23 pm
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6531 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 5:23 pm
Good news for the savers on here.

quote:

The Internal Revenue Service said Wednesday it has raised the contribution limit for 401(k) and related plans to $23,000 for 2024, up from $22,500 this year. The contribution cap for individual retirement accounts, or IRAs, will rise to $7,000 in 2024 from $6,500 this year.


Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35307 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 5:27 pm to
Hell yea

HSA limit went up too.
This post was edited on 11/1/23 at 5:29 pm
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11096 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 5:58 pm to
The fact there's any limit is dumb AF
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
15775 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 6:08 pm to
Sucks I’m capped at putting 6% into my 401k. I’ve been pretty good on back dooring a Roth every year but need to look into other avenues to save.
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6097 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 6:14 pm to
The total deferral for the 401k (for us solo 401k peeps) is now 69,000 instead of 66,000.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72615 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 7:19 pm to
quote:

The total deferral for the 401k (for us solo 401k peeps) is now 69,000 instead of 66,000.




Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
10398 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 7:21 pm to
quote:

Sucks I’m capped at putting 6% into my 401k. I’ve been pretty good on back dooring a Roth every year but need to look into other avenues to save.


400k per year. Blessed.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11804 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:05 pm to
Thanks....Inflation....
Posted by Sterling Archer
Austin
Member since Aug 2012
7309 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:57 pm to
:hedidthemath:
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18755 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 9:15 pm to
For those 50 and over, they can put an extra $1,000 in IRA and an extra $7,500 in most 401k type accounts. These catch-up contribution caps are not changed from 2023.

I think you are eligible to start making catch-ups in the year you turn 50, so you need to plan ahead on payroll deductions that could start Jan 1 when you are still 49.
Posted by Virgo
Member since Aug 2017
157 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 9:25 pm to
Maybe a dumb question, but is the IRS limit per couple (married filing jointly) or per individual if we each have a 401k through work?
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132321 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 9:58 pm to
quote:

The contribution cap for individual retirement accounts, or IRAs, will rise to $7,000 in 2024 from $6,500 this year.

Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18755 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 10:19 pm to
quote:

is the IRS limit per couple (married filing jointly) or per individual if we each have a 401k through work?


Per individual. We each max out the limits and file married/jointly.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
15775 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 10:33 pm to

quote:

Sucks I’m capped at putting 6% into my 401k. I’ve been pretty good on back dooring a Roth every year but need to look into other avenues to save. 400k per year. Blessed.



I got caped 10 years ago and my wife was capped 12 years ago working for the same company. She has moved on to another company so she can benefit but I’m still only allowed to put in 6%.


For employees to be classified as a Highly Compensated Employee (HCE), they need to meet certain qualifications set by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS):

They own 5% or more of the company regardless of their compensation. Ownership applies to spouses, children, and grandchildren working under a single company.
Their annual earning will be more than $150,000 in 2023. Compensation covers all income an employee receives from the company, including bonuses, commissions, and other types of incentive pay.
When ranked according to their compensation, they are in the top 20% of employees, and the employer has chosen to classify them as an HCE.


Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14960 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 8:22 am to
quote:

HSA limit went up too.



Contribution limit: $8300/family
My max out of pocket: $13,300/family (but $9,100/individual)


Is it too much to ask to just make the darn contribution limit at least comparable to the maximum MOOP’s?
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11676 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 9:03 am to
You're capped or you get a check back based on company-wide contributions not passing the HCE testing standards?
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
15775 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 9:28 am to
Capped. I’ve got my percentage higher than 6% but it defaults to 6%.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39577 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 9:38 am to
quote:

My max out of pocket: $13,300/family (but $9,100/individual)


I'm confused about your MOOP being $9,100 for individual coverage when that's higher than the MOOP maximum allowed but my brain hurts this morning so maybe it's me.
This post was edited on 11/2/23 at 9:40 am
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37081 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 11:44 am to
quote:

For those 50 and over, they can put an extra $1,000 in IRA and an extra $7,500 in most 401k type accounts. These catch-up contribution caps are not changed from 2023


So, Congress intention was starting in 2024, that catch up contributions had to be to a Roth if your income was north of $145K.

But, in typical Congress fashion, they screwed up the language, and accidentially removed the ability for high income earners to make ANY kind of catch up contribution starting in 2024.

The IRS stepped in and delayed the rule for two years, to 2026, to give Congress time to fix it.

But it's interesting the IRS can use regulatory authority to deal with Congressional mistakes... even if in this case, it is a taxpayer friendly delay.

Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14960 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

I'm confused about your MOOP being $9,100 for individual coverage when that's higher than the MOOP maximum allowed



I think it’s exactly the maximum allowed.

When looking at plans for our office for next year, it basically worked out perfectly such that any increase in (annualized) premium worked out to exactly the same reduction in MOOP. The odd exception was that it would be somewhat cheaper for those with insurance for the whole family, but those who had individual plans (the vast majority of employees) would be worse off. So we’ve stuck with the HDHP and encouraged employees to use an HSA.


Ex: plan that was an additional $200/m would result in a MOOP roughly $6700, plan that was additional $400/m would reduce the MOOP to about $4300. We currently pay a portion of insurance premiums for employees, but we aren’t in a position to eat that whole difference in premium, and literally everyone would be better off if they took that $200/m and tossed it in an HSA for the next 10 years, with the exception being someone who gets a major illness early and often. Fortunately, since our employees work in a doctors office, they have relatively low healthcare costs for basic stuff, so even a super high deductible doesn’t hurt them much.
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