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Posted on 6/1/16 at 5:20 pm to
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 5:20 pm to
I see. I don't understand how you came to a cash on cash measure is all.

My boom was Broward. Pre construction contracts flipped before ground was broken. New construction in Port St. Lucie. And Broward condos.

Those days are gone. For now. Until the Fed, and Janet Yellen do something that has unintended and unimagined consequences, or some world event intervenes.

Hopefully I'll be able to recognize, and act, while the economists on the politics thread debate and theorize about it.

Charlie Crist put an end to flipping construction contracts, that's not coming back. Florida banks and brokers offering me 2000% of sale's or appraised values is done. For now at least.

It was fun. I was making about $50K a year when I started. I'm still there, several others are busted and long gone. One of the few places the FBI showed up and put mortgage brokers and bankers in prison. I was interviewed by an FBI agent about one realtor and one mortgage broker. I paid back everything, they were going after those that originated and lied.

I was down in Cuba, probably illegally, and they met me at the dock in Deerfield Beach. I had about 6 Cuban cigars. They were laughing about me going to Cuba, and asked me how many times I went down there. I put them off and had an attorney present when they questioned me. Right off the bat they told me I didn't do anything wrong, but asked detailed questions about the appraiser, realtor and mortgage broker. None of them were charged. The realtor moved on to the next boom. She thought North Carolina. No idea what happened to the mortgage broker or appraiser.

Scared the crap out of me. I thought it was the trip to Cuba and the cigars. The Captain was the boat was scared also. Big time scared.

Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4126 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 6:36 pm to
In my case, more like 30+ years ago. But yes, the landscape was even more different then than 7-8 years ago or now. No money down, wrap mortgaged deals and strawman buyers are no longer weapons of choice. But in the trusts I formed and the partners I had along the way, doctors and dentists were common players. It put them in investments that generated income and the possibility of appreciation, with little to no management on their part. But they typically also had a mix of investments once they became established... as did I. Being a one trick pony is not what I am suggesting, nor would I suggest that for anyone.

A balanced portfolio of investments is what most seek. And hopefully there will be a healthy work/life balance that goes with that. My background was in banking and real estate, so that's what made sense for me as a way to build wealth early on. I've always invested in the stock market though. I owned stocks and mutual funds before I ever bought the first piece of property. If this gentleman is seeking to establish an early tax advantaged nest egg (realizing that his income will grow substantially in the years to come and this option my leave the table for him), I believe that the Roth is not an unwise decision for now. He will likely be in the accredited investor club sooner than later. So there will be a whole host of choices for him as time goes on.

As someone who has probably devoted his adult life to the study of medicine and helping people, I see this as much more than just a business opportunity for him though. From family to friends who are physicians, even those who are multi millionaires, never seem to be able to truly walk away. At best, they just cut back. My (now retired) doctor owns the building where his practice was and he still maintains some sort of ownership interest in the clinic. He mainly just rides (and wrecks) his Harleys these days. And he does a few days a month in the ER just to say he did it.

In any case, short of unforeseen circumstances, money should be the least of the OP's worries as time passes. So taking all of what's been suggested into account, IMO, he should choose whatever investment vehicles that meet his goals, interests and stress tolerance, whether it be 50/50 stocks and real estate or 33/33/33 in something totally different,
Posted by GeauxTigers777
Member since Oct 2007
1573 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 6:50 pm to
I hear that often, but even if what I have been offered gets cut in half, I will still make a good living. I understand this is no longer the "monetary golden age" of Medicine, but it is still a decent living. I don't need an extravagant lifestyle.

Also, if worse came to worse financially, I very much enjoy my field. I would be quite fine working until I am 65.

Also, do you really think my standard of living will not increase from a resident salary? I in no way support some of the current political environment, but that is quite an over exaggeration.
This post was edited on 6/1/16 at 6:53 pm
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15968 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 3:58 am to
quote:

I hear that often, but even if what I have been offered gets cut in half, I will still make a good living. I understand this is no longer the "monetary golden age" of Medicine, but it is still a decent living. I don't need an extravagant lifestyle.


I agree.

You will make a much better living as a staff physician than as a resident.

I am merely pointing out that the trend in physician salaries is very flat.

You have hit the nail on the head regarding the "golden age" being past.

I would not choose another career. I really have not had any year over year raises in quite awhile. I still make a nice living, but there does not seem to be a growth component to my income. To maintain same income, I have to do a little more work each year. I enjoy what I do, but at some point I would like to see some of the explosive costs in medicine flow to the physician. Healthcare costs have exploded; physician salaries are flat. Money is going to administrators, computers, coders, etc. The documentation time is ever growing- you get paid the same for more work.
This post was edited on 6/2/16 at 4:00 am
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