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re: Information for my fellow Real Estate Investors

Posted on 1/26/16 at 8:37 pm to
Posted by BoogerEater
Lake Charles, La.
Member since Feb 2008
1597 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 8:37 pm to
Another tip is if you manage your own property act like you're the manager and not the owner. That way it gives you time to decide things.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10230 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 8:41 am to
I'm going to incorporate the following question into my application;

1) Do you own a vacuum? If so could you take a picture of it, and email it to me please?



Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6211 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:39 am to
stevengtiger and others....

How much time do you spend managing the property once you have a tenant? Not talking about cutting grass or regular maintenance that you can do on your own schedule. I mean getting calls to fix things, dealing with problems, etc...
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:53 am to
Knocking on wood....

I have spent very little time managing the three we currently have occupied. Meet in the beginning of the month to collect rent and do a drive by once or twice throughout the month and that is pretty much it. I have some very low maintenance tenants, so I am sure that helps a lot.

A big help for me has been putting together a group of contacts for when problems come up. I have contacts for all major issues. HVAC, plumbing, general contractor stuff, insect treatment, etc.. Got a phone call about an HVAC issue a few months ago, called my guy, problem fixed without me doing much of anything besides paying the bill over the phone.

All the homes we have bought have generally had newer HVAC, roofs, electrical systems, so hopefully we won't have to deal with much of that in the next few years.

I have spent more time working out financing, looking a potential deals and spread sheets for our properties than I do thinking about management.

Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37705 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:03 am to
If the house is in good condition I rarely get any phone calls. I have in my rental agreements that any maintenance under $50 they are responsible for.

I will not tolerate calls for putting in a new light bulb or the toilet keeps running, etc.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72618 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 9:46 am to
Just a heads up gents, but the old Personal Real Estate Investor Magazine has now changed its name to Think Realty if you are interested.

I like the magazine.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72618 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

Over the past decade many investors either won big or they lost big because of the Great Recession.

The losers included rehabbers who got stuck with properties for which they paid too much and then could not sell. Buy-and-hold investors saw their tenants move out to share housing with friends or family members. That forced them to lower rent prices to attract new tenants, which, in turn, cut into their cash flow.

Yet there were many investors who survived and even thrived in the past decade. This large disparity between successes and failures is the very reason I spent the last 10 years identifying what these seasoned investors do differently. There are a number of differences, but today I can sum it up pretty simply. The single most identifiable difference that I noticed between average and seasoned investors is the seasoned investors “See it Big, Keep It Simple.”


seasoned investors see it big, keep it simple
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 1:39 pm to
Good article.

quote:

Keeping it simple means establishing your criteria and sticking to it. It means making only minor adjustments to the strategy, but never adjusting the investing criteria.


I like this.
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6211 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 1:53 pm to
Question about Tax ID number. We have our LLC set up and I asked my contact at the bank we plan on using what information we needed to bring her to open a business checking account. She said we need to bring her our LLC documentation and our Tax ID number. How do we go about getting that?
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

How do we go about getting that?


The lawyer that set up your LLC should be able to provide you the number. When they file everything with the state for your LLC, they should receive your tax info once its approved. That is how I got ours.

Also, if anyone is interested, we put an offer on our sixth property yesterday and waiting to hear back. Spec's below.

3 bedrooms/2.5 baths
1,300 sqft
VA foreclosure asking $61,500
Offer was $55,000
Estimated cost of repairs is around $10,000. Waiting on our contractor to finish bid but even if something crazy happens, shouldn't be more than $12K max.
Comps in area are selling between $105k and $120K. Will flip if we can or rent in that area is no less than $1,000/month.

This post was edited on 2/5/16 at 2:11 pm
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6211 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 2:15 pm to
So that's two flips and four rentals for you now, correct? Great job, btw.... Still looking for our first one to get us started then for the dominos to start falling.
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

So that's two flips and four rentals for you now, correct?


Correct. Currently own three rentals with tenants and have one under contract closing 2/15. One flip completed and offer in on the second (fingers crossed cause it could be a good one).

quote:

Great job, btw


Thank you sir!

quote:

Still looking for our first one to get us started then for the dominos to start falling.


After the first one, you won't want to stop.

ETA: I pressed submit and phone started ringing. It was my dad who just made an offer on another flip type property he was looking at with our retailer. His obsession has grown to dangerous levels.
This post was edited on 2/5/16 at 2:26 pm
Posted by Danny Woodhead
Member since Oct 2013
694 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 3:52 pm to
Very nice thread y'all. Read about every thread on the board, this one has staying power.

Google Drive idea is phenomenal
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 4:00 pm to
(Regarding the BR area) I'm going to be looking for new housing in August most likely. I will (hopefully...likely) have a job by that point. I have been considering buying a condo/house. A 1br to rent after I move out eventually or a 2br with a roomate in the meantime. I haven't been able to find any good or even decent deals in BR as far as RE investing goes. It this just a bad area/time?
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 7:41 pm to
Know what you want and have cash to put down. Deals don't last.
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6211 posts
Posted on 2/6/16 at 11:02 pm to
I'm working on a growth model based on ILB's spreadsheet and I’m looking for a sanity check on a few percentage assumptions/increases.

The model is built to buy one house, 0% down (private lender), $5000 into the "Building" account at time of purchase. Closing costs and repairs are would be in addition to this but for the model assume we are going into it fully ready to rent. The Building account is built up to $10,000 + 1 year worth of carrying costs (mortgage + insurance + taxes). Once that account is built up, all additional cash flow would be paid to the mortgage to pay it off early. Any big costs would pull from the Building account and repaid from the positive cash flow. All management is handled in-house through year 15 then 10% to a property management firm thereafter. Also I built in lawn maintenance starting at year 15 as well (handled in house before).

Let me know how realistic these percentages and assumptions are or if I should increase/decrease:

• First Year Rental Rate: 1% of purchase price (We’ve been analyzing a lot of properties and this number seems to be our sweet spot. I would say it’s decent for single family properties fairly conservative for multi-family.)
• Rental Increase: 5% yearly (I thought this was high but when I look at it, that means rents double every 15 years. I think that’s a reasonable expectation.)
• Vacancy Rate: 8%
• Usage of vacancy account: 50% yearly (Basically saying we’re going to have 4% vacancy or 1 month per 2 years. I think it’s low BUT will have built in protection with the initial $5,000 and with the rental increases over time, the value of the 4% will increase while the mortgage won’t so we would be better over a longer time period as well.)

• Insurance increase - 5% yearly

• Maintenance allowance - 8.33% of yearly revenue
• Maintenance cost increase - 5% yearly
• Usage of maintenance allowance yearly - 25% (This is for standard maintenance, not replacing an AC or roof. Big costs would be pulled from the Building account. Basically, if we set aside $1000 yearly, we’re going to actually use $250 in maintenance and put $750 in in the Building account.)

• Real Estate Cost (what I buy today's house for next year) - 5% yearly

This is a lot of info so if you read this far, thanks!

I know no plan is perfect and there are peaks and valleys but I feel like this provides a fairly conservative picture of what it will take and where we will end up in 10-15-20 years…
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37705 posts
Posted on 2/7/16 at 5:09 am to
What market are you in?

Nothing in your projections look crazy although they do differ from my numbers. What is your "all-in" price and what will your monthly rent be?
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6211 posts
Posted on 2/7/16 at 7:58 am to
Based on $75000/unit, $700 rent in year 1 (so a little low in year 1 for rent).
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37705 posts
Posted on 2/7/16 at 8:23 am to
In what market? If you're in Alabama I'm not a fan of those numbers at all.

eta - If you're in Houma I would strongly advise against it as well. If Oil stays down your rents are going to decrease, not increase.
This post was edited on 2/7/16 at 8:26 am
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6211 posts
Posted on 2/7/16 at 8:34 am to
Thibodaux. $700 is below market currently per my research for a 2br.

Note: I also ran an ultra conservative model with 10% vacancy, 2.5% rent increase, the same increases in expenses and the numbers still work out, just take longer to get there.
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