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Income to house cost ratio: Assuming pretax income, what is the marginal ratio?

Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:12 pm
Posted by kjacksonp
Mobile, AL
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:12 pm
Thanks for the help.
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 2:14 pm
Posted by That's BS
Smoothie King Center
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:25 pm to
Read something on MSN money yesterday that said 28% of pretax income. I prefer that number to be less than 20%.

My current mortgage + insurance + taxes is more like 10% of monthly gross income, but this is my starter home.
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 2:27 pm
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83586 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:30 pm to
most banks are going to go by 25%-30%

whether or not that is high, depends on your situation

when we first bought our house, it was in the 30% range, but we bought our house at the beginning of our earning potential with the plan to stay in the house long term

5 years later, that % has reduced by almost half

Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26580 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:54 pm to
Wait, so you are saying if someone makes 100k a year, a bank will pre-approve them for a house that costs 400k?
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
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83586 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 3:03 pm to
that is the % that my mortgage lender was willing to lend me back in 2010

maybe it was my high credit score and the low interest rates
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 3:13 pm to
Consider going significantly less. You don't want to be house poor.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

Wait, so you are saying if someone makes 100k a year, a bank will pre-approve them for a house that costs 400k?


Maybe, depends on credit and downpayment.

but the monthly payment on 400k in debt falls within the correct ratios for 100k in income, assuming minimal side debt.

quote:

Consider going significantly less. You don't want to be house poor.

This. Paying 28% hurts if you want to have any semblance of a life.
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 3:20 pm
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26580 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 3:21 pm to
That is crazy!

I think I would stick to my mortgage payment (plus taxes and insurance) being 20 percent of pre-tax income.
Posted by Coach Guidry
Member since Nov 2007
2333 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 3:44 pm to
quote:

Wait, so you are saying if someone makes 100k a year, a bank will pre-approve them for a house that costs 400k?


680 or above, sure.
Posted by Phate
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
11724 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 4:01 pm to
When I bought my house the total mortgage (plus insurance and property taxes) totaled 19% of my gross monthly income. If your credit is good you'll probably be able to get a loan that will put you closer to 30% but that's a very large chunk of your monthly income. I wouldn't go above the lower 20's.
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 4:02 pm
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 4:05 pm to
20-25% I think is comfortable range. Do you have kids? If you are nearing the 30% mark I would guess 1. that you dont or 2. have them in public school
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
3700 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 5:31 pm to
I don't like to think of things as pre-taxed. I like to base everything on take home only. I would only go 25% of take home. Why current mortgage with everything like insurance is only 18 percent of my take home.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15892 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 5:34 pm to
Always live below your means.

Housing is overrated as an investment, however, you do have to live somewhere.

I would say maybe 20% of income is the maximum I would consider for housing.
The less, the better.
Posted by Coach Guidry
Member since Nov 2007
2333 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 6:02 pm to
Most banks will let you go 30-35%, FHA loan will let you go up to 43%...with approved Credit of course.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 7:15 pm to
I'm in the low teens and I think that I bit off way more than I should have. I would get stomach ulcers if I was at 25%. I can't even fathom 43%.
Posted by Toula
504
Member since Dec 2006
35399 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 7:21 pm to
I'm with you. I'm at 15% and it feels like a huge chunk of my take-home.

Anything over 20% would stress me out.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 7:36 pm to
25% in mortgage
25% in taxes

Half your income is gone before you put the first bit of food in your mouth Or pay your electric bill.
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37715 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:57 pm to
quote:

I'm in the low teens and I think that I bit off way more than I should have. I would get stomach ulcers if I was at 25%. I can't even fathom 43%.


Same.

I'm at 6% of my gross income. Cheap housing and a high salary (relative) in Birmingham is great.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4112 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:12 pm to
Assuming a conventional, conforming mortgage, the typical high ratio would be roughly 28% of gross being allowed for PITI (and PMI) and 35% for total monthly debt payments. For a jumbo loan, atypical situation or an in-house/non-conforming loan, your mileage may vary.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24162 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:16 pm to
I'm at 14% on my rent and I feel like that is as high as I would want to go.

28% would put me in one of the nicest apartments in the city and I would feel dirt poor.
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