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Income Tax Issue/Question
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:41 pm
Long, but trying to give all the info.
Went to the DMV to get a new license today and they told me my license was suspended by the Dept. of Renevue. Call them to get everything straightened out and after 40 minutes on the phone they tell me I owe $3,150 to the state from back in 2013. I typically get money back from the Fed and state but that year I bought a house and cashed in some CD's for the down payment, so I owed.
I'm almost 100% sure I mailed a check for this, but I'm having trouble finding the paper trail for it. If I can't show it was paid I'm sure I'll be on the hook for what I originally owed, my question is am I liable for the fines they are trying to add on to the original amount? This is the first I'm hearing of additional money being owed. No notices in the mail and no mention of it when I filed for my refund the past two years.
Any advice on how to handle this would be greatly appreciated.
Went to the DMV to get a new license today and they told me my license was suspended by the Dept. of Renevue. Call them to get everything straightened out and after 40 minutes on the phone they tell me I owe $3,150 to the state from back in 2013. I typically get money back from the Fed and state but that year I bought a house and cashed in some CD's for the down payment, so I owed.
I'm almost 100% sure I mailed a check for this, but I'm having trouble finding the paper trail for it. If I can't show it was paid I'm sure I'll be on the hook for what I originally owed, my question is am I liable for the fines they are trying to add on to the original amount? This is the first I'm hearing of additional money being owed. No notices in the mail and no mention of it when I filed for my refund the past two years.
Any advice on how to handle this would be greatly appreciated.
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 3:25 pm
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Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:16 pm to J.Peterman
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I'm almost 100% sure I mailed a check for this
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This is the first I'm hearing of this money ever being owed
Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:22 pm to slinger1317
100% sure I mailed the originally owed income tax.
This is the 1st I'm hearing that they have no record of receiving the income taxes and that I now owe nearly $1,500 in fines on top of the original amount.
This is the 1st I'm hearing that they have no record of receiving the income taxes and that I now owe nearly $1,500 in fines on top of the original amount.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:31 pm to J.Peterman
USAA allows me to go back years on statements online.
Can your bank not do this?
I'm sure this is sort of like insurance, you may have sent the check, but it is your responsibility to make sure it is cashed and the tax paid.
Can your bank not do this?
I'm sure this is sort of like insurance, you may have sent the check, but it is your responsibility to make sure it is cashed and the tax paid.
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:33 pm to J.Peterman
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I typically get money back from the Fed and state but that year I bought a house and cashed in some CD's for the down payment, so I owed.
Wat
Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:36 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
Planning on digging in to that when I get home. As I'm sitting here thinking about it, I'm getting worried that maybe it didn't get mailed or got lost in the mail. If my bank statement doesn't show the withdrawal, I'm fine with paying the original amount. I'm more concerned with the additional fees and penalties when I was never notified the payment was delinquent.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:39 pm to sneakytiger
I cashed in CD's and investments so I had more income than usual. I owed taxes on that income... Sorry if that wasn't clear.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:43 pm to J.Peterman
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I'm more concerned with the additional fees and penalties when I was never notified the payment was delinquent.
In my experience, they are usually way behind on letting you know if you owe. 3 years sounds about right with the few clients I got this year that had delinquency notices.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:01 pm to J.Peterman
Did your address change, maybe the notices were going to your old house?
You can always ask for the penalties to be waived.
They are also pretty spot on about scooping up refunds if you owe them money. That is how I found out about an issue I had. They tried to claim I lived in Louisiana for a year when I lived in Texas the entire year. So, all the notices supposedly went to Texas, and they all went out after the 1 year mail forward expired. What's pathetic is that they sent a letter to Texas demanding that I lived in Louisiana, and despite the fact I had filed later Louisiana resident tax returns with a Louisiana address... they still sent the letter to Texas. So the fact that they didn't grab your refund does surprise me a bit.
Saying you know you owed but were never told you still owed is not going to be a winning argument.
You can always ask for the penalties to be waived.
They are also pretty spot on about scooping up refunds if you owe them money. That is how I found out about an issue I had. They tried to claim I lived in Louisiana for a year when I lived in Texas the entire year. So, all the notices supposedly went to Texas, and they all went out after the 1 year mail forward expired. What's pathetic is that they sent a letter to Texas demanding that I lived in Louisiana, and despite the fact I had filed later Louisiana resident tax returns with a Louisiana address... they still sent the letter to Texas. So the fact that they didn't grab your refund does surprise me a bit.
Saying you know you owed but were never told you still owed is not going to be a winning argument.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:00 am to J.Peterman
If you never filed your state you probably owe less than the $3150 because they base it off your federal report and don't include your state deductions.
There was a year the state owed me less than a $100 and I forgot to file them. A couple of years later I get a notice in the mail that I owe $3000+ in taxes and can't get my fishing license renewed until they receive payment.
Pulled up my taxes saved on the computer. Mailed them off and received a $67 dollar check six weeks later.
There was a year the state owed me less than a $100 and I forgot to file them. A couple of years later I get a notice in the mail that I owe $3000+ in taxes and can't get my fishing license renewed until they receive payment.
Pulled up my taxes saved on the computer. Mailed them off and received a $67 dollar check six weeks later.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:47 am to LSUFanHouston
My argument is that I mailed a check for the originally owed income tax. I thought it went through and I was in good standing. I filed the last two years and received state and federal refunds with no notice of any issue.
I had changed my address so it's possible they were sending notices to my previous address, but why wouldn't my address have been updated after I filed for my past two refunds under my new address.
As I said earlier, If by some chance they did not receive the income tax payment I sent two years ago I'm ok with paying what I originally owed. I just don't want to be hit with penalties when I had no idea there was an issue.
I had changed my address so it's possible they were sending notices to my previous address, but why wouldn't my address have been updated after I filed for my past two refunds under my new address.
As I said earlier, If by some chance they did not receive the income tax payment I sent two years ago I'm ok with paying what I originally owed. I just don't want to be hit with penalties when I had no idea there was an issue.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 9:13 am to J.Peterman
You can ask for the penalties to be waived but you can't just say "I didn't get a notice so you can't charge me penalty." You are at their mercy at this point unless you can prove you paid this bill before.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 9:20 am to J.Peterman
quote:You would have noticed that your check you sent them to pay two years ago had not cleared your checking account. Wouldn't that have alerted you that something was wrong?
If by some chance they did not receive the income tax payment I sent two years ago
Or do you not reconcile your checking account periodically?
Posted on 6/23/16 at 12:48 pm to LSURussian
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You would have noticed that your check you sent them to pay two years ago had not cleared your checking account. Wouldn't that have alerted you that something was wrong?
My personal goal in life is to get to a point where I never even notice a $1,600 check has not cleared.
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