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HSA Questions - General HSA Discussion
Posted on 2/18/16 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 2/18/16 at 4:27 pm
I have a few questions regarding my HSA and I figure that I can get quicker feedback here than trying this find this information.
1. Am I taxed on capital gains? I know that the funds that go in are not taxed, but are any capital gains I earn for that account taxed?
2. Am I restricted from using the capital gains portion of the HSA for qualified medical expenses? For instance, I have a balance of $100. I earn $20 in capital gains. I have a service that costs $110. I can use the full remaining balance?
3. Only medically necessary expenses/procedures are eligible? No boob jobs, penis enlargements, etc?
I know these seem like dumb questions, but I just want to make sure I get the idea. Any ideas/tips/suggestions regarding HSA contributions/investments/expenditures?
1. Am I taxed on capital gains? I know that the funds that go in are not taxed, but are any capital gains I earn for that account taxed?
2. Am I restricted from using the capital gains portion of the HSA for qualified medical expenses? For instance, I have a balance of $100. I earn $20 in capital gains. I have a service that costs $110. I can use the full remaining balance?
3. Only medically necessary expenses/procedures are eligible? No boob jobs, penis enlargements, etc?
I know these seem like dumb questions, but I just want to make sure I get the idea. Any ideas/tips/suggestions regarding HSA contributions/investments/expenditures?
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 8:18 am
Posted on 2/18/16 at 4:32 pm to southernelite
1. You're only taxed if you pull out the money for a nonqualified expense.
2. No, in fact that's one of the nice things about an HSA.
3. I have no idea since I've never had that kind of work done.
2. No, in fact that's one of the nice things about an HSA.
3. I have no idea since I've never had that kind of work done.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 4:38 pm to southernelite
We we given the option in July ot do PPO or HSA at work. One guy asked the administrators the exact question about a "boob job" being covered. The lady answering the questions froze at first, but said it was a medical procedure
Same thing if you do fertility visits/procedure. HSA covers but most insurance doesnt..
They would have given us a credit card linked to our HSA account. you could go to wall greens and by asprinm cough syrp, ect that would be covered.
Same thing if you do fertility visits/procedure. HSA covers but most insurance doesnt..
They would have given us a credit card linked to our HSA account. you could go to wall greens and by asprinm cough syrp, ect that would be covered.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 4:45 pm to southernelite
Sort of off topic, but since you have the correct answers to your questions already, who holds your HSA? And are you pleased with the investment choices?
Posted on 2/18/16 at 5:03 pm to southernelite
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1. Am I taxed on capital gains?
No, it's the elusive "triple threat"
i.e. Tax free in, tax free growth, tax free distributions (qualified)
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2. Am I restricted from using the capital gains portion of the HSA for qualified medical expenses? For instance, I have a balance of $100. I earn $20 in capital gains. I have a service that costs $110. I can use the full remaining balance?
No.
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3. Only medically necessary expenses/procedures are eligible? No boob jobs, penis enlargements, etc?
Correct.
And it's just an HSA, not HSA Account. That's like saying ATM machine.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 5:04 pm to Jag_Warrior
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Sort of off topic, but since you have the correct answers to your questions already, who holds your HSA? And are you pleased with the investment choices?
HSA Bank with TD Ameritrade custodial account here. Love it.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 5:09 pm to southernelite
Can someone explain to me how an HSA works? Pros and Cons.. And if it would be a good idea for me. I'm 25, healthy, and my wife and I are considering trying to have children in the next year or 2.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 5:39 pm to OMapologist
I guess I'll throw my dumb HSA question in here as well. I have had one for about a year now and I am 100% cash. If I have a major, unexpected medical expense, I do not want to risk the market being down and losing money. When people talk about growing their account tax free, is this generally after a nice cash nest egg has been built up?
I've only got about $1200 in it so far, but I can't imagine investing any of it until I have at least $5k.. maybe $10k.
I've only got about $1200 in it so far, but I can't imagine investing any of it until I have at least $5k.. maybe $10k.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 5:53 pm to PhiTiger1764
I believe my HSA has a minimum account balance before you can invest any funds. Not sure if all are like this.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 5:53 pm to PhiTiger1764
I'm not sure if it's a Federal rule, but most plans that I'm aware of only allow you to make investments once you exceed a certain balance.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 6:11 pm to LSUnGA
Ok... after checking mine out it does look like $2k is the minimum balance before I can invest. Regardless, I plan to maintain a much larger cash balance than that before I begin investing any of it.
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 2/18/16 at 6:12 pm to Jag_Warrior
Mine is with HSA Bank.
There were two options for investments, one was TD Ameritrade and I can't remember the other.
Reading the overview, it doesn't look the TD Ameritrade option has a minimum account balance but I'm going to look more into at work tomorrow. Not sure what I can and can't trade out of this, but it said, stocks, bonds, mutuals so I don't know.
I don't have much in it yet as this is my first year with an HSA.
There were two options for investments, one was TD Ameritrade and I can't remember the other.
Reading the overview, it doesn't look the TD Ameritrade option has a minimum account balance but I'm going to look more into at work tomorrow. Not sure what I can and can't trade out of this, but it said, stocks, bonds, mutuals so I don't know.
I don't have much in it yet as this is my first year with an HSA.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 6:13 pm to OMapologist
Do you have a plan that qualifies you to have an HSA? I believe most anyone is eligible for an FSA (flexible spending account). But you have to be enrolled in a qualifying high deductible health plan to be eligible for an HSA. If you're planning on having kids, either product would likely work for you. But the FSA has an annual "use it or lose it" provision that makes it unsuitable as a savings vehicle. Plus, the HSA is portable. Like my 401k, it leaves with me when I leave.
I've been maxing out my HSA since we got a HD plan and I see it more as a savings/retirement vehicle for now. The only issue that I have is that with a $4,000 deductible, I'm only allowed to place $3,350 (until 55, I believe) in the HSA - including the company contribution. Dang gubment rules!
I also don't care for Optum Bank. But there's nothing that I can do about that right now. HSA Bank and TD Ameritrade is what I wish that we had too. I'm jealous of Tiger D and Southernlite..
I've been maxing out my HSA since we got a HD plan and I see it more as a savings/retirement vehicle for now. The only issue that I have is that with a $4,000 deductible, I'm only allowed to place $3,350 (until 55, I believe) in the HSA - including the company contribution. Dang gubment rules!
I also don't care for Optum Bank. But there's nothing that I can do about that right now. HSA Bank and TD Ameritrade is what I wish that we had too. I'm jealous of Tiger D and Southernlite..
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:29 am to southernelite
I have an HSA. Pretty sure they are tied solely to high deductible health plans.
When it was just me, I was "saving" money like crazy. Then I got married, had 2 kids, and a 3rd on the way.
I still call it an HSA but that now stands for "Health Spending Account". That shite gets blown so fast it makes me want to cry.
When it was just me, I was "saving" money like crazy. Then I got married, had 2 kids, and a 3rd on the way.
I still call it an HSA but that now stands for "Health Spending Account". That shite gets blown so fast it makes me want to cry.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:56 am to southernelite
Boob jobs aren't allowable expenses because it's a cosmetic procedure.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 7:46 am to Jag_Warrior
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I've been maxing out my HSA since we got a HD plan and I see it more as a savings/retirement vehicle for now. The only issue that I have is that with a $4,000 deductible, I'm only allowed to place $3,350 (until 55, I believe) in the HSA - including the company contribution. Dang gubment rules!
I believe it's double that if you're married. Or very close to double. You said we, so I wasn't sure what you were referring to.
But yes, that is one thing that should have been amended to go along with Obama care. Max contribution should be $xxxx, or up to your yearly deductible. But that makes sense, so forget it.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 7:52 am to Jag_Warrior
quote:
I've been maxing out my HSA since we got a HD plan and I see it more as a savings/retirement vehicle for now. The only issue that I have is that with a $4,000 deductible, I'm only allowed to place $3,350 (until 55, I believe) in the HSA - including the company contribution. Dang gubment rules!
are you married? should be double that if you're married
because my company contributes $3k to my HSA and then I put in about $2k myself
Posted on 2/19/16 at 11:09 am to Salmon
No, not married. The "we" in my post referred to myself and the other worker bees in the company.
According to my plan docs, at 55, the gubment tacks on another $1000, for single or family. So $4350 for single and $7650 for family.
According to my plan docs, at 55, the gubment tacks on another $1000, for single or family. So $4350 for single and $7650 for family.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 11:42 am to Jag_Warrior
Mine is done through "Health Equity Inc." There are about 60 mutual funds to choose from. The "Standard Funds" as they call them suck. The lowest expense ratio is 0.57% and they are all actively managed mutual funds (about 30 to choose from). There is also "Investor Choice" available. These are better (ex. Vanguard Index funds with <0.1% expense ratio). There are about 20 of these. But, because they are not in the "Standard" list, they tack on 0.33%/month expense fee which jacks up the expense ratio equivalent to one of the crappy actively managed funds. End rant.
tldr - I limit what I put in my HSA and hold it as cash.
tldr - I limit what I put in my HSA and hold it as cash.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:00 pm to iknowmorethanyou
Cosmetic procedures would be allowed if deemed medically necessary. I can't imagine a boob job ever to qualify, but other procedures could be.
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