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How to Franchise? Min requirements
Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:59 am
Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:59 am
Can someone explain to me the minimum requirements on franchises?
Take this one for instance:
Initial investment of $125k-425k
Net worth requirement of $800k
Liquidity cash requirement of $250k
Ongoing royalty of 9%
Does someone like me really have to be worth 800k to open a franchise like this? Or does that include the loan money you'd be given if approved by a bank?
Take this one for instance:
Initial investment of $125k-425k
Net worth requirement of $800k
Liquidity cash requirement of $250k
Ongoing royalty of 9%
Does someone like me really have to be worth 800k to open a franchise like this? Or does that include the loan money you'd be given if approved by a bank?
Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:03 am to BengalBlood81
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Does someone like me really have to be worth 800k to open a franchise like this? Or does that include the loan money you'd be given if approved by a bank?
Raising Cane's was $2,000,000 of personal, liquid assets when I inquired 6-7 years ago.
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 11:04 am
Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:06 am to BengalBlood81
Ive been looking into this myself. Hopefully you get some good responses.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:11 am to dj30
Most business fail in the first 3 years, so Id guess the liquidity requirement is them looking to see if you have enough personal reserves to make it thru that.
Just a quick google search, about a year old.
LINK
Whoa!
Just a quick google search, about a year old.
LINK
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6. WENDY’S: $40,000 The going rate to open a Wendy’s franchise is $40,000, plus a minimum net worth of $5 million, and minimum liquid assets of $2 million. The restaurant, which first opened in 1969, was also the first fast food chain to open a salad bar.
Whoa!
Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:15 am to BengalBlood81
Generally speaking you need to have the money yourself. The funds need to be non borrowed.
What business are you looking at?
What business are you looking at?
Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:41 am to Jones
Well to be honest I haven't chosen anything in particular yet because I don't know what's in the realm of possibilities. I have about 250k cash and I'd like to change careers. I'm 36, married, first kid on the way, like to work, and have a good support structure around me. Just trying to figure out what I could do from this point and franchises seem to be a decent route? I could do what is popular and buy an expensive house (which is the road we're heading down) or we could rent for $1400 a month and change our outlook to something different. I just don't want an insurmountable amount of risk since we have a baby coming. If it were just me, I'd roll the dice...
Is franchising something tough? Can't be.. I see them all over the place, and I'm a college grad that loves business. Just not familiar with this subject.
Is franchising something tough? Can't be.. I see them all over the place, and I'm a college grad that loves business. Just not familiar with this subject.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 12:10 pm to BengalBlood81
I always hear the main problem is what is going out the back door (theft, free meals to friends) and not the front.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 12:13 pm to BengalBlood81
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Is franchising something tough? Can't be.. I see them all over the place,
Really, really look at all those franchises. Think about them. Now exclude Chick Fil-A.
What kind of margin do you imagine they have?
The majority of them are shitholes scraping by with unsatisfied customers, undesirable employees, and minimal margins. It is hard f***ing work to create a culture of success and high expectations when your employee pool is minimum wage to $12/hr. I'm not saying you can't survive, but I don't think you will experience the success you may be envisioning.
Not with ONE franchise, at least.
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 9/5/17 at 1:17 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
It's a big problem. Buddy of mine owned a few McDonald's and you have to be there 24/7 or you will be getting robbed blind
My father had a business very similar to blockbuster for 25 years which had 10+ stores. It's a 24/7/365 job or the business will suffer. Employees with no stake in the company deep down don't give a shite. Hell, one of my best friends stole probably 10 to 20 thousand from one of our stores. No telling what the others did
My father had a business very similar to blockbuster for 25 years which had 10+ stores. It's a 24/7/365 job or the business will suffer. Employees with no stake in the company deep down don't give a shite. Hell, one of my best friends stole probably 10 to 20 thousand from one of our stores. No telling what the others did
Posted on 9/5/17 at 1:49 pm to Jones
Ya, I bet.
I imagine a big part of it is no one is thinking about it on the macro level.
One employee thinks the few times a week he hooks up a friend won't cause the business to go under. He's not accounting for the 20 other employees doing the same thing. Soon enough, you're out $5,000 a year or more.
I imagine a big part of it is no one is thinking about it on the macro level.
One employee thinks the few times a week he hooks up a friend won't cause the business to go under. He's not accounting for the 20 other employees doing the same thing. Soon enough, you're out $5,000 a year or more.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 2:00 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
Oh no doubt.
The way we caught him was very by chance. Customer came in to return some items and hands us a receipt that had all handwriting for the items and prices. This is not normal. He took the regular forms and instead of typing them out and running them through the computer, he wrote the items and pocketed the cash money. He only did this when they were paying with cash so we had no record with cards. We had so much extra inventory that there was no telling how much he took.
Iirc, after my dad confronted him, he admitted to it and even brought inventory from his house back to our store. I havent talked to him in almost 20 years and he was a lifelong friend.
No telling what other employees could have been doing.
We busted workers at my friends McDonalds multiple times. Just giving away free shite. Theft in stores like those are unreal. Its not preventable
The way we caught him was very by chance. Customer came in to return some items and hands us a receipt that had all handwriting for the items and prices. This is not normal. He took the regular forms and instead of typing them out and running them through the computer, he wrote the items and pocketed the cash money. He only did this when they were paying with cash so we had no record with cards. We had so much extra inventory that there was no telling how much he took.
Iirc, after my dad confronted him, he admitted to it and even brought inventory from his house back to our store. I havent talked to him in almost 20 years and he was a lifelong friend.
No telling what other employees could have been doing.
We busted workers at my friends McDonalds multiple times. Just giving away free shite. Theft in stores like those are unreal. Its not preventable
Posted on 9/5/17 at 2:59 pm to BengalBlood81
If it's a loan you can't count it as an asset. Yes, you're supposed to have $800k in net worth. Assets minus liabilities.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 3:28 pm to BengalBlood81
Like any other business owner, you have to be present and involved. The benefit of a good franchise is that it's come with a structured set of rules and guidelines to follow. You don't have to do the work that a startup would have to do.
If you're talking restaurant franchises, theft is really the least of your worries. If you know how to run a restaurant, you can mitigate theft fairly easily... daily sales reports, cameras, draw audits, food cost etc will either keep employees honest or allow you to pinpoint the problem quickly. Not that it doesnt happen but it's not a problem like it was, say, 15 years ago. Id say it starts with finding good management and above restaurant leaders. The big thing to worry about, cost wise, is repairs on restaurant equipment, A/C, ventilation, building repairs and improvements, etc. It can be never ending and exhausting.
It's a fulfilling and rewarding if you have the guts to take the plunge.
You may have to find other investors for your first location. If you're successful your options open up with regards to bankrolling your next ventures
If you're talking restaurant franchises, theft is really the least of your worries. If you know how to run a restaurant, you can mitigate theft fairly easily... daily sales reports, cameras, draw audits, food cost etc will either keep employees honest or allow you to pinpoint the problem quickly. Not that it doesnt happen but it's not a problem like it was, say, 15 years ago. Id say it starts with finding good management and above restaurant leaders. The big thing to worry about, cost wise, is repairs on restaurant equipment, A/C, ventilation, building repairs and improvements, etc. It can be never ending and exhausting.
It's a fulfilling and rewarding if you have the guts to take the plunge.
You may have to find other investors for your first location. If you're successful your options open up with regards to bankrolling your next ventures
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:48 pm to BengalBlood81
There are entire message boards dedicated to ins and outs of franchising. People spend thousands of hours researching before plunking down money. Their houses probably look like that garage in A Beautiful Mind. Is that advisable? Probably not. But you should do a shite load of homework on your market and its needs.
You're not going to get a McDonalds for $250k but you might get a Firehouse Subs or a Smoothie King. Putting up a Smoothie King in a strip mall isn't gonna get you a Mastercraft, which is where knowing your market's needs comes in.
You're not going to get a McDonalds for $250k but you might get a Firehouse Subs or a Smoothie King. Putting up a Smoothie King in a strip mall isn't gonna get you a Mastercraft, which is where knowing your market's needs comes in.
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:51 pm to BengalBlood81
Now you know why most franchises, especially in fast food, are multi-unit. You have to have a lot of net worth to get in the door.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 8:36 am to BengalBlood81
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Ongoing royalty of 9%
Key.
Don't underestimate this.
I looked at a company that charged 8 % royalties and 1 % for advertising royalty on a monthly basis.
Sure, they have "systems" in place, but their advertising is a joke. They don't have "brand" recognition due to the industry that I am speaking of.
I decided after many hours of research and talking with current franchise owners that I can do my own venture on my own.
Yes, it takes a lot of time and I certainly will screw up. But I'm confident that given my background in operations and sales and marketing, I can get through it.
Hire the right people. Take care of your people. Trust those people. Allow them to make decisions that are in the best interest for your customer, the employee and your business. Create a "win-win" situation for all. The rest will take care of itself.
Or so I hope. :-)
Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:05 pm to Jones
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Just giving away free shite. Theft in stores like those are unreal. Its not preventable
It may not be 100% preventable but with a proper inventory management system you can keep it very low.
The big problem is owners not doing accurate, regularly scheduled inventory counts. (I get it, it's a pain in the arse and a big time sink but it's your money!)
Do not depend on any employee to do these counts. They will scam the system.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:08 pm to Will Cover
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advertising royalty
Aka franchise owner party cash slush fund.
I've never seen a non-regional/national franchise that used this money properly.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:02 am to Sisyphus
Here are some free fries
Here's a free coke
Here's a free piece of chicken
Here's a free wrap that we 'dropped on the ground'
The first two are stuff you can give away all day and there's almost no way to notice if the employees are smart about it. The next two are easily doable.
And fwiw, the example I used above at my friends McDonald's, the manager was I guess you could say in on it when we caught them once.
Here's a free coke
Here's a free piece of chicken
Here's a free wrap that we 'dropped on the ground'
The first two are stuff you can give away all day and there's almost no way to notice if the employees are smart about it. The next two are easily doable.
And fwiw, the example I used above at my friends McDonald's, the manager was I guess you could say in on it when we caught them once.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 1:08 am to Jones
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Here are some free fries
Here's a free coke
Here's a free piece of chicken
Here's a free wrap that we 'dropped on the ground'
1,3, & 4 fall under portion control and inventory management.
2 is inventory management. (Cup count & average servings per syrup bag vs drinks sold)
Yes, a couple here and there will slip through but you'll notice it with these tools before it really effects your bottom line.
Also, having all employee drinks and meals rung up and then discounted 100% (if you are allowing employees to do such) really helps. Once you notice abuse you suspend it. These discounts are easily identifiable on most standard POS nightly reporting.)
This post was edited on 9/7/17 at 1:19 am
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