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re: How much should I pay a fund manager?
Posted on 1/24/13 at 12:00 pm to Janky
Posted on 1/24/13 at 12:00 pm to Janky
It just pisses me off when I see people say "Ahhh just do it yourself". Sure, because that sure worked out well in 1999 when every moron who could left click a mouse had an e-trade account. And subsequently lost all of their money. The average person doesn't have the time, expertise nor inclination to do their own investing. Some do and that's fine but to blanket statement this guy is just ridiculous.
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 12:02 pm to Broke
And if they think Vanguard isn't doing things like bumping spreads in order to make their money, these folks are sadly mistaken. They don't do this shite for free just to be nice guys.
Posted on 1/24/13 at 12:06 pm to Broke
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And if they think Vanguard isn't doing things like bumping spreads in order to make their money, these folks are sadly mistaken. They don't do this shite for free just to be nice guys.
All you have to do is run a chart comparison between TROW and PRCWX their best fund. It shows an amazing comparison to owning one fund or the parent company that makes money off of their investors. Vanguard would be the same way if they were public.
ETA: For the record, I use several Vanguard funds in my portfolios.
This post was edited on 1/24/13 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 1/24/13 at 12:09 pm to Janky
Closed books mean we will never know.
Posted on 1/24/13 at 12:18 pm to Broke
I agree that it's a smart idea for the average investor to have an FA with experience. I don't however, think it's a good idea to go to bank to find an investment adviser.
I only own 2 Vanguard funds, VFINX and VTSMX, because of their ridiculously low .17 expense ratio, and I want a couple of Index funds in my portfolio.
I only own 2 Vanguard funds, VFINX and VTSMX, because of their ridiculously low .17 expense ratio, and I want a couple of Index funds in my portfolio.
Posted on 1/24/13 at 12:19 pm to Broke
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I own a black and decker drill. Gonna do my own dental work from now on too. I watch Judge Judy, gonna do my own litigation.
Not even remotely equivalent.
Posted on 1/24/13 at 2:34 pm to Fat Bastard
Fat Bastard, what ways do you invest?
Go with Vanguard for Roth IRA. Do you invest in mutual funds?
Go with Vanguard for Roth IRA. Do you invest in mutual funds?
Posted on 1/24/13 at 2:39 pm to Vols&Shaft83
You don't go to your local bank? Then where do you go?
You guys are saving me lots of time! Thanks!
You guys are saving me lots of time! Thanks!
Posted on 1/24/13 at 2:42 pm to LSUTigers00884
LSU: Here is the jest of what others are saying. In most cases bank advisors are young and very new to the business. They SELL you what they are told to SELL you. Once they build a decent book of business that will walk with them ,they switch to another firm that offers higher payouts. The turnover rate of bank advisors are very high. There are certainly some exceptions to his, but this is what I have seen.
This post was edited on 1/24/13 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 1/24/13 at 7:42 pm to LSUTigers00884
Don't pay a fund manager. When needed pose all investment questions to Money Board.
Posted on 1/24/13 at 7:47 pm to Broke
I would bet money in funds like the Total Stock Market Index would out perform the majority of fund managers even through the last 15 years. Every time the total stock market is getting hammered double down on your investments.
Posted on 1/24/13 at 7:55 pm to peopleschamp
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Pose all investment questions to money board
No.
Posted on 1/24/13 at 8:19 pm to Broke
quote:Right, because 1999 was a great example of when all of the "pros" and Joe financial advisors of the world had it all figured out.
It just pisses me off when I see people say "Ahhh just do it yourself". Sure, because that sure worked out well in 1999 when every moron who could left click a mouse had an e-trade account. And subsequently lost all of their money. The average person doesn't have the time, expertise nor inclination to do their own investing. Some do and that's fine but to blanket statement this guy is just ridiculous.
If more people would have talked to their Edward Jones advisors in 1999, maybe nobody would have lost any money.
Posted on 1/24/13 at 9:58 pm to Bayou Tiger
Janky, which Vanguard funds do you own?
Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:08 pm to LSUTigers00884
What is the min/max initial? And there isn't really a min once you get it going right?
Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:50 pm to jimbeam
What?
Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:53 pm to jimbeam
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What is the min/max initial? And there isn't really a min once you get it going right?
If you're talking about Vanguard funds there is a minimum contribution amount for each fund. For some funds it's $1,000 but for most it's $3,000 for an initial contribution.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:03 am to Dead Mike
Ok thanks
Posted on 1/25/13 at 6:34 am to Broke
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I own a black and decker drill. Gonna do my own dental work from now on too. I watch Judge Judy, gonna do my own litigation.
Moron.
great analogy. definitely the same. He can definitely learn to be a dentist or a lawyer/judge quicker than he can study/research and pick some mutual funds especially a index fund and/or target retirement fund to put in a ROTH IRA.
No, you are the BUTTHURT INVESTMENT REP HERE.
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This post was edited on 1/25/13 at 6:44 am
Posted on 1/25/13 at 6:35 am to Bayou Tiger
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Right, because 1999 was a great example of when all of the "pros" and Joe financial advisors of the world had it all figured out.
If more people would have talked to their Edward Jones advisors in 1999, maybe nobody would have lost any money.
I love the sarcasm!
This post was edited on 1/25/13 at 9:18 am
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