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Graduate Certificates

Posted on 1/25/24 at 5:50 am
Posted by FirstCityDawg
Member since May 2017
2497 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 5:50 am
If someone completes a 12-18 month Graduate Certificate with a major university, should they be able to consider themselves alumni of that university?

I googled this and results are split 50-50. I’ve also asked the opinion of several people who I know and trust their opinion. They’re also split pretty evenly.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
8725 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 6:07 am to
I say yeah. You gave them money in return for education. You also completed the required curriculum
This post was edited on 1/25/24 at 11:00 am
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3106 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 3:59 pm to
I worked with a complete jackass who said he graduated from Tulane. Come to find out, he took some certificate program requiring minimum hours. If I were affiliated with Tulane in any way, I would NOT want that jackass saying he was a Tulane graduate. It weakens the brand.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40444 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 6:56 pm to
You’ve got losers who take a weekend course at Harvard listing it on their LinkedIn
Posted by Bill Parker?
Member since Jan 2013
4468 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 11:21 pm to
Havard has a "graduate" program that is essentially a rent-a-degree for folks who couldn't finish 4 simple years to get an undergraduate degree.

It's a money grab.








Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
8962 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 11:41 pm to
quote:

It weakens the brand


“The brand” being trust fund babies getting useless Liberal Arts degrees because they couldn’t qualify for a respected public University?

I’ve hired two Tulane Alum in the past few years to work a bar. One with a Film degree who currently works at REI in the desert southwest with $60K in student loan debt. Another with a degree in Education who quit a poorly performing Tampa Middle School in her first year due to “work/life balance issues”.

I know it’s a limited sample; but, from my shoes “the brand” is shite.
Posted by FirstCityDawg
Member since May 2017
2497 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 4:45 am to
Thanks for the feedback. To be more specific, if someone already earned a degree from a major university and then their employer sent them to obtain the Graduate Certificate from another university specific to their career. Would that person be able to be considered alumni?
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
7455 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 5:15 am to
quote:

You’ve got losers who take a weekend course at Harvard listing it on their LinkedIn
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84753 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 7:14 am to
quote:

Would that person be able to be considered alumni?


They can probably consider themselves whatever they’d like, but if you tell me you’re a University of Chicago alum, I’m going to assume you received your undergraduate or graduate degree there, not a certificate. If I later find out it’s a certificate, I’ll feel like you oversold yourself.
This post was edited on 1/26/24 at 7:14 am
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3106 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 7:39 am to
quote:

I know it’s a limited sample; but, from my shoes “the brand” is shite.
I agree with everything you just said. So maybe the total jackass would actually raise their profile. Good point.
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3106 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 7:42 am to
I would think less of them because I would think they were trying to be deceitful.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4083 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

If someone completes a 12-18 month Graduate Certificate with a major university, should they be able to consider themselves alumni of that university?

I googled this and results are split 50-50. I’ve also asked the opinion of several people who I know and trust their opinion. They’re also split pretty evenly.


To me, the issue or dispute comes about because people often assume something that doesn’t meet the actual definition of the word in question. An alumnus is simply someone who has graduated from or attended a particular school.

Just because I was involved in a discussion about this topic many moons ago, when I was taking real estate law courses as part of my CCIM designation at the UVA School of Law, the professor stated that the people in that program would indeed be alumni of the School of Law, just not necessarily graduates (unless they continued on the graduate path). Because of that, I’ve never mixed & matched alumnus with graduate. Much like all pistols are guns, but not all guns are pistols… all graduates are alumni, but not all alumni are graduates.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63232 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 11:58 pm to
I was an LSU student once and have the independent study course credit to prove it.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24134 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 7:05 am to
MIT offers micro Masters program but I wouldn’t consider myself an alum of MIT if I did the program. I also wouldn’t discount that it’s an earned certificate. I think about skills earned via the certificate much more so than the institution granting (as long as it’s not a for profit institution).
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
4449 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 10:08 am to
quote:

I know it’s a limited sample; but, from my shoes “the brand” is shite.


Tulane has a strong brand as a respected academic institution, although it triggers some insecure losers from LSU (which is a joke academically).
Posted by Tommy Noble
Member since May 2013
526 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 10:44 am to
If the certificate is teaching you marketable job skills / knowledge in the field, what does it matter? The idea that 4 years plus graduate school and tens of thousands + in student loan debt is the only way is one of the biggest lies ever told in our society.
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