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re: First time ever I owe taxes

Posted on 3/26/24 at 10:00 pm to
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37081 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 10:00 pm to
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also just checked mine and im filing joint married with 0

also it has a N next to my wife doesn't work and it should be Y. Will that make a difference?


Now we are cooking with gas.

If you withhold married joint, it assumes that only one spouse works.

But both of you are working. So your income gets combined together, and because of our marginal rates, you have an issue.

Let's assume you are in the 24% marginal tax bracket just on your income. Well, the withholding tables assume that some of your income is taxed at 0% (due to standard deduction), some at 10%, some at 12%, some at 22%, and the rest at 24%.

Now, let's add your wife's income to the stack. You have already used up the 0, 10, 12, 22, and part of the 24% "buckets" just for you. So your wife's first dollar of income earned is taxed at 24%, and goes from there.

However, she is likely being withheld at something well less, because her income is so much less than yours.

The easy fix here is to set both of you as single, 0 exemmptions, which will max withhold, and see if that solves the problem.

The slightly harder fix is to use a withholding estimator, like the ones on the IRS website, and make some granular adjustments to your withholding.

LINK

You may want to do this soon, so you can fix any problems for 2024 before they get worse.

Also... if one or both of you get a lot of your income in the form of bonuses, incentivre comp, etc, understand that the withholding tables don't handle that well, and you may need to start making some estimated payments as well.
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
5746 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:21 am to
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What am I missing?


It's the illegals, man! Do you realize how much taxpayer money is being spent on these illegals, who flow into our country with the arms of the Democrats stretched to greet them upon arrival?
Someone has to pay for it, right? While our citizens struggle in this piss poor economy that Joe Biden thinks is wonderful, the illegals are flourishing!
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6410 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:18 pm to
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our citizens struggle


You get what you vote for.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
1137 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 8:54 am to

I’m gonna say FJB, just because.
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Typical logic of the average people. We need more above average people!
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
1137 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 8:57 am to
I haven't had a refund in 20 years. Hard to relate.

You are working on the wrong problem. Put more energy into investing!
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22669 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:50 am to
People are getting hammered because W4s aren't being filled out correctly. It's a little more involved than it used to be.
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
11297 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 11:06 am to
My wife and I are both high W2 earners and we have paid for years. Doesn’t bother me to pay. I’d rather pay than let the govt hold my money.
Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
8962 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 9:37 pm to
Getting $3K-$7K back a year is extreme. You were giving the government a free loan. I would rather owe just a little than get a ton back. That way I am keeping more of my money every paycheck. Go online and run your expected tax with holdings. That is what I do.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37081 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 9:39 pm to
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People are getting hammered because W4s aren't being filled out correctly. It's a little more involved than it used to be.


The whole point of the W-4 redesign was to make it easier to use, and get people closer to zero (not owning anything but also not getting a large refund)

Another example of government "fix" making things worse.
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