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re: Federal intrest rate and stock market

Posted on 6/12/15 at 11:03 am to
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 11:03 am to
It's been hard not to of been profitable the past couple years. All you had to do was take a dart and throw it at the board.
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
7918 posts
Posted on 6/12/15 at 11:19 am to
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It's been hard not to of been profitable the past couple years. All you had to do was take a dart and throw it at the board.


Tell that to people long in the energy sector.

Just to show an example where technical analysis could be useful one could plot a company like Oasis Petroleum (OAS) on a chart with crude oil. One might notice that OAS was making new highs above its 2013 in the summer of 2014. Meanwhile crude oil was not making new highs above its 2013 highs. This would be a huge red flag if one owned OAS.
This post was edited on 6/12/15 at 11:26 am
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4582 posts
Posted on 6/12/15 at 11:29 am to
Fundamentals would have proven oil was over valued as well, just as I mentioned earlier.

However if you would have bought a quality company as Exxon or the like in '09 and rode it down, you still would be profitable.
Posted by player711
Member since Jun 2006
285 posts
Posted on 6/12/15 at 1:12 pm to
I would be doing the same thing--However, can you really time the market?

Do you know how to trade and make money when the market goes down and up?

Have you ever used an asset that is not correlated to the stock market that would give you better growth?
Posted by gatorsimz
cafe risque
Member since Feb 2009
8135 posts
Posted on 6/12/15 at 1:48 pm to
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Technical analysis can be very useful. It has been very profitable for me the last several years.


Just curious how it's been profitable for you? I think charting can help someone find decent entry/exit points in or out of a security over a short period of time but that's about it.
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40847 posts
Posted on 6/13/15 at 2:28 pm to
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Have you ever used an asset that is not correlated to the stock market that would give you better growth?


Wouldn't it be easier to just tell everyone up front who you work for and what type of products you sell.

No offense but your posts on these boards scream snake oil salesman
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
7918 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 8:53 am to
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Fundamentals would have proven oil was over valued as well, just as I mentioned earlier.


Fundamentals pointed to an oil market crash as early as Summer 2013.

LINK

In the OPEC monthly report for June 2013 concerns over increased US and Canadian are evident.

Yet oil remained in the $100/bbl range into August 2014.

I'm not saying don't look at fundamentals, as they are very important. But markets can go against fundamentals for months to years. Studying technicals can help keep one out of trouble.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/14/15 at 9:51 am to
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When stock values fall, and those companies keep paying you the same dividends, you are getting more shares than you were when the market was up. Guess what happens when the values come back up?


Just WOW
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4582 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:51 am to
Which is exactly my point, markets don't behave rationally. So trying to predict them is foolish.
Technical analysis would have told you to get out of the market a long time ago.

Develop a goal, stick to that goal.
This post was edited on 6/14/15 at 12:23 pm
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
7918 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 5:30 pm to
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Technical analysis would have told you to get out of the market a long time ago.


Not really. Looking at SPX and INDU monthly charts there have yet to be any kind of breakdown.

quote:

Develop a goal, stick to that goal.


My goal is to steadily increase my account at above market returns using proper risk management coupled with technical analysis. I've been successful at that goal.

To dismiss a method because you don't use it is not helpful to new traders that read the board and could potentially be good at technical analysis.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123853 posts
Posted on 6/15/15 at 10:16 am to
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Anything wrong with taking my gains and then buying back in when the market corrects?
Not necessarily as straight-forward as it may seem. Depends on your tax bracket, investment plans, and expectations for market performance
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