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Posted on 4/24/15 at 11:55 am
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
7629 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 11:55 am
OK so the wife and I went to get a Lona to consolidate all of our credit card, medical and other small debt we have. The bank came back with a counter offer the would pay off our cards but not everything.
They also want us to close 4 card accounts. 3 on my name pretty high limits and I have had them all for over 5 years.
The loan would save us a little bit each month instead of paying the cards individually.
Our predicament is should we take that and take the credit score hit that comes with closing those accounts? Or continue paying them like normal till we can get them paid out. We have the money monthly but can't throw huge chunks at them.
Posted by AnonymousTiger
Franklin, TN
Member since Jan 2012
4863 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:16 pm to
Shop around for other offers.
Posted by Coach Guidry
Member since Nov 2007
2333 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 1:02 pm to
What's your DTI right now, and what's your Credit Utilization?
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 1:11 pm to
Is the new loan a home equity loan that will allow you to deduct the interest paid? Is the interest rate on the proposed new loan less than your credit card interest rates? How long is it going to take you to pay off those cards and small debts without the loan?

You need to not have so many open cards if you can't keep em in your wallet. Bank is right about that. Keeping me open to preserve a credit score is silly if you're not managing debt successfully.
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
7629 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 3:17 pm to
Not home equity loan. The interest would be lower than the cards. The only reason I am in this spot is because of medical emergencies not careless spending.

I have had the three cards for years and thankfully I did when I needed them.

Not sure on the amount of time to pay the cards. The loan would be a 3 year loan.
Posted by AnonymousTiger
Franklin, TN
Member since Jan 2012
4863 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 3:25 pm to
So you're just trying to get an unsecured personal loan? If so, there are probably lots of options out there that will not require you to close the cards in order to get the loan.

If this is what you're looking for, check out this site for some helpful info.
This post was edited on 4/24/15 at 3:26 pm
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
7629 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 3:44 pm to
Yea just an unsecured loan. Thank
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35541 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 3:46 pm to
If you take out a loan to pay off credit cards many lenders will want cards closed. There is nothing that prohibits you from charging the balances up again and then having double the revolving debt that you now have.
Posted by AnonymousTiger
Franklin, TN
Member since Jan 2012
4863 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

If you take out a loan to pay off credit cards many lenders will want cards closed.


True, a lot of them will want you to do that. But before signing on that deal it wouldn't hurt to see if there may be some other lenders out there that would have more favorable terms and not make that request.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 7:15 pm to
quote:

Our predicament is should we take that and take the credit score hit that comes with closing those accounts?


Closing an account is generally a small hit to your score, and it sounds like you shouldn't be borrowing more anytime soon anyway so who cares what happens to your score?

Definitely shop around for the best deal but don't worry about what happens to your credit score all that much until you get things under control.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17259 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 7:27 pm to
You can not borrow yourself out of debt, take an aggressive approach and pay off your cards as quickly as possible, most people who consolidate card loans just end up charging them up again then having both debts
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 7:38 pm to
quote:

You can not borrow yourself out of debt


You can if you get a lower rate.

Question for the OP - have you called your credit card issuers to ask for a lower rate? If you have a good payment history the chances are pretty reasonable that you'll get it.

There's another advantage to going that route instead - you can be very aggressive paying down revolving debt since if an emergency happens you can just charge it back up. You can't do that with a personal loan.
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
7629 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:02 am to
I have talked to a few but the problem is I am current on all payments so they don't seem to want to work with us.

To those saying I haven't been good with my finances to get into debt. I wish it were so easy but sometimes life happens and you have to make s choice health or money.
We are not over our head in debt we are just trying to make it simpler. Instead of paying multiple payments to different companies at higher rates. Its easier and could be cheaper to pay one loan payment at a lower rate
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35541 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:18 am to
Emergencies happen and you did what you had to do. Unfortunately a lender is going to see that available revolving credit as a ticking time bomb.
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
7629 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 11:00 am to
I definantly understand how the lender's see it just pointing out to some of those who seem to think that I just went charging up cards being irresponsible.
not evertyone who gets into debt did it irresponsibly is all I was saying. Thanks for all the input though
Posted by xrockfordf150x
Walker, LA
Member since Sep 2008
3828 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 1:36 pm to
The only way to properly answer your question would be to know the size of the debts, your income, and expenses.

I understand that it is convienient to have a few credit cards to use in an emergency situation and you probably did what most of us would do if put in your shoes. But one big problem with having several (more than 2) credit cards open is it gives you the illusion that you actually have a proper emergency fund in place. Credit cards are not a replacement for an emergency fund as your example indicates. Once this mess is cleaned up you need to have a liquid fund in place that has nothing to do with available credit or borrowing potential.
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
7629 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

I understand that it is convienient to have a few credit cards to use in an emergency situation and you probably did what most of us would do if put in your shoes. But one big problem with having several (more than 2) credit cards open is it gives you the illusion that you actually have a proper emergency fund in place. Credit cards are not a replacement for an emergency fund as your example indicates. Once this mess is cleaned up you need to have a liquid fund in place that has nothing to do with available credit or borrowing potential.



You are correct it isn't the right way to do it but unfortunantly the couple grand I had saved for emergencies was exhausted. Hopefully I can be out of this as soon as possible and get that cushion back.
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