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re: Credit Card Rewards and Points Discussion
Posted on 9/21/16 at 2:28 pm to dabigfella
Posted on 9/21/16 at 2:28 pm to dabigfella
Gotcha. Thanks for the explanation. You can't put a price on piece of mind and happiness so I understand that.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 2:28 pm to Sho Nuff
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Are you hitting this max?
Yeah. I spread it out over the year just to play it cool with Chase. Otherwise 50K is a good month
I just only buy Visa GCs and call the 1% fee the cost of my travel. A lot of people use part of the earned points to cover the fees, but I just pay it. I have bought target GCs before. I have a costco membership and I don't do a lot of voluntary spend otherwise, so other GCs have no use to me.
Just replied.
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GenesChin
Oh yeah. I was aware of that. In context, I didn't think dabigfella was looking to reduce prices etc. Besides, when it comes to re-selling, I have always felt that it is not worth it if your only "profit" is the credit card points.
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I can't pay my mortgage or car payment with CC. Some allow it, most don't. I do pay most of my other bills including my insurance with a CC.
Yes you can. Use rad pad. As long as you can use checks to pay, you can pay a 1.75% fee to pay with CC and radpad will send them a check.
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A bit curious about this myself. So, get the Ink card, go to Staples and OD, buy a lot of Amex or Visa gift cards and collect the 5X, then what, go use the gift cards to make purchases at walmart, target, lowes?
Precisely. Welcome to Pandora's box
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 9/21/16 at 2:30 pm to Sho Nuff
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I bought $500 gas cards and it's a little pain to go to Shell as they're not all around here.
I don't know if you have Race Tracs around you but they sell gift cards too. Gives you an option instead of Shell. I ran into the same issue when gas stations were a 5x Freedom category. I bought up Shell gift cards but it made it a pain in the arse on occasion if I really needed to fill up and had to find a Shell station.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 2:34 pm to RedHawk
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I can't pay my mortgage or car payment with CC. Some allow it, most don't. I do pay most of my other bills including my insurance with a CC.
Thanks for the reply. I am assuming it is up to the bank that is giving the loan for the house/car? My car loan is 0% APR, I'm not sure if that would affect it or not.
ETA: Looked at radpad - seems the fee to process the payment would end up being more than I would make on cashback for the year. Unless I'm doing the math wrong.
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 9/21/16 at 2:37 pm to AmeriKop45
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Yeah. I spread it out over the year just to play it cool with Chase. Otherwise 50K is a good month
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I just only buy Visa GCs and call the 1% fee the cost of my travel.
I didn't even think that would work. So the $500 Visa cards code as 5x from office stores and yeah you pay $5 for the card so that's not bad. I don't think I'll hit $50k but the more I can do the more travel I'm going to use now knowing the trick to get to the mainland and Euro from HI.
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Just replied.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 2:38 pm to Big Saint
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I don't know if you have Race Tracs around you but they sell gift cards too.
Not out here they don't but thanks for the suggestion.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 2:42 pm to Sho Nuff
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It makes sense if you use it to meet min spends and have no other way to.
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ETA: Looked at radpad - seems the fee to process the payment would end up being more than I would make on cashback for the year. Unless I'm doing the math wrong.
It makes sense if you use it to meet min spends and have no other way to.
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 9/21/16 at 2:53 pm to AmeriKop45
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Visa GCs and call the 1% fee the cost of my travel
If it's $8.95 for a $300 gift card, where are you getting the 1%?
The payoff is still good ($1,500 for 250,000 UR points) but not 1%.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 2:54 pm to SLafourche07
Oh yeah, you're right. Not 1% at Office. But still come out on top due to 5x. And you pay 0.58c per point bought at store or online
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 9/21/16 at 2:59 pm to AmeriKop45
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It makes sense if you use it to meet min spends and have no other way to.
Ah yes, I understand now. Man this stuff is interesting.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:20 pm to AmeriKop45
So, a $100 GC bought at Staples is 500 UR points. If it costs $3 to buy the card, 500 UR points used inside Chase is really 750, which equals $7.50 worth of travel? So, kind of a $4.50 gain? Am I doing this right? I'm driving, so it's kind of hard.
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:24 pm to kywildcatfanone
if so WOW that turns 100 points into 750??? Damn man I need to get on this if thats the case
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:40 pm to dabigfella
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if so WOW that turns 100 points into 750??? Damn man I need to get on this if thats the case
I'm not sure that is accurate, it's why I'm asking. Might make the Ink worth it for me because i will gladly go load up on gift cards if the fees aren't too high, and use them at Walmart/Lowes/Sams/Costco etc instead of a CC.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 4:03 pm to kywildcatfanone
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So, a $100 GC bought at Staples is 500 UR points. If it costs $3 to buy the card, 500 UR points used inside Chase is really 750, which equals $7.50 worth of travel? So, kind of a $4.50 gain? Am I doing this right? I'm driving, so it's kind of hard.
You have the gist of it but really it would be worth more than $7.50 when you look at award flights etc. $7.50 would be the absolute lowest you value those points at.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 4:08 pm to hiltacular
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You have the gist of it but really it would be worth more than $7.50 when you look at award flights etc. $7.50 would be the absolute lowest you value those points at.
Exactly. I had to book flights for my wife and daughter to Philly and for some unknown reason a direct flight from Dulles to Philadelphia is $500 a ticket. It only cost 10000 miles on United for the flight so I transferred 20k UR points to United (which happens in real time) and got each ticket. That's a .05 redemption per point which is fantastic.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 4:23 pm to kywildcatfanone
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kywildcatfanone
Now you get why I say Ink paired with CSR is a killer combo.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 4:36 pm to AmeriKop45
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In context, I didn't think dabigfella was looking to reduce prices etc.
Sounds like he is trying to get out, but if someone was interested in aggressively building their business in this sector, they could operate at a loss to be more competitive while still making money
Posted on 9/21/16 at 4:39 pm to dabigfella
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if so WOW that turns 100 points into 750??? Damn man I need to get on this if thats the case
DBF, let's talk about what is more important for you first
-INK max points for 5x = 250,000/year
-BigFella Chase Freedom U Sams Club Points = 7,500,000+/year
7,500,000 booked through CSR = $112,500 in travel
You could pull out $50,000 tax free to pay for an assistant to handle minimum wage workers + sams club trips then still have $37,500 in travel left over
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 9/21/16 at 4:46 pm to AmeriKop45
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Now you get why I say Ink paired with CSR is a killer combo.
Yeah, I see. Like I was saying I don't shop at those places for much of anything, but I could go in there and buy gift cards.
Did I read on some of these posts that you are limited in how many gift card and/or the $ value you can spend in a day or some specific time frame? Does Chase only allow those purchase once a week or day and only for so much $?
Edit: Will probably wait till closer to the end of the year for the Ink. In the last week I've gotten 2 CSR's I have to meet spend on, and the Ink is $5K in 3 months I think. I can do that with gift cards though, but want to spread it out a bit. My wife is freaking out on me right now.
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 9/21/16 at 4:48 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Did I read on some of these posts that you are limited in how many gift card and/or the $ value you can spend in a day or some specific time frame? Does Chase only allow those purchase once a week or day and only for so much $?
Unusual activity raises a red flag. Most people don't spend $50k at office Depot in Jan of every year
I always buy my GC I use online. Except Amazon, I have to go in for them
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