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re: Credit card and bullshite debt??

Posted on 7/24/13 at 6:18 am to
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37714 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 6:18 am to
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They can kill cash flow. They can be a time problem for many people.


Not to mention if him and his wife are driving 15, 000 cars then their debt is almost wiped out by selling and getting two $5000 camrys.

Of course he won't do that and is a reason he's in this mess to begin with.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26989 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 8:02 am to
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I asked what you're paying on them and what they were.




$1100 for both. About to drop 600 bucks.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26989 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 8:06 am to
$1,396 a month in DEBT payment!

$110 of it is only tolerable because of no interest on a TV and a bed. Both of which are necessities just not the types that we have.

No NFL Sunday ticket this year.

But if you go to a sports bar every Sunday and drop $30 it is not a savings.
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37714 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 8:31 am to
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1100 for both


You need help. You're living way beyond your means.

I make great money and drive a $4,000 car I paid cash for. When your money works for you instead of you working for money life gets much easier.
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38536 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 8:35 am to
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Car notes aren't the problem


They certainly aren't the solution either.

quote:

One will be paid soon.


How many months do you have left on the other vehicle that still carries a note? How much is your payment per month?

Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48838 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 8:53 am to
I don't think they are serious about it or he wouldn't be joking about badass tv and bed.

I owe ZERO. I hunkered down, listened to Dave Ramsey, ate beans and baloney, didn't go to sports bars and paid off $200,000.00 in three years including mortgage.

It helps to have a motivated spouse as well as yourself. Get rid of all cards except one. Bow your head and get to work. Pay cash and only keep a card for emergency use.

I haven't owed a dime in six or seven years and what I was dumping on debt is being dumped into building wealth. It's the greatest feeling in the world. Do it and do it now.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 8:57 am to
Wife and I are about to start this since she graduates in a month and will (likely) have a job in September.
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38536 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 10:00 am to
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It's the greatest feeling in the world. Do it and do it now.




Only thing we owe is the house. Have just under 14 years left at 2.875 %. Still in our 30's.

Our goal is to be able to retire early in our 50's.

"If you live like no one else, then later you can live like no one else." - Dave Ramsey - this finally struck home with me after I realized that I was sick and tired of being sick and tired.
Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
17094 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 11:14 am to
The Millionaire Next Door is a great read.

I really think people get in denial and just get used to being in debt. My bil and sil are that way. They live a financed life.

I have 150k house at 3.25% 30 year.

11 Malibu paid in cash after deployment
07xterra for wife that is paid off with 70k miles on it.

We dont make that much (gross 85)

We are newly married and have zero debt other than house and roughly 15k saved in a few retirement accounts. I'm 24 and she's 29.


She had sown debt before we got married but we both finally have real jobs. We'll be bigtime savers now and in the future. It's exciting.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
9204 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 1:04 pm to
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No. There is a TV (I only go pimp with TV) that is on a no interest Best Buy card. Also a badass tempurpedic that is no interest as well. But they knock it down to 49-50. We just need to really get this shite under control so we have breathing room when more "life" happens. Like a AC dying or major auto repairs


No one who is financially stretched should ever buy consumption items on "0"% terms as the retailer has a very good reason for providing supposedly free financing and it is not for your financial benefit. If a consumer doesn't have the means to pay at the time of purchase, or has the means yet spends the repayment on other things prior to the retail contract coming due, then they are screwed. You are your wife should get serious about getting, and remaining, out of a consumerist lifestyle unless you can truly afford it, if then. HVAC replacement, etc, happens when you own your home or other RE, maintenance/replacement can be expensive, plan for it and it doesn't put you in the shitter when it inevitably occurs or get a home warranty as a bridge until you are financially stable. Yet another reason why people should never stretch to buy a house. Spending/consuming is a mindset, much like saving/investing is a different mindset, with a kid and factoring future expenses giving up blowing cash you don't have should be priority one. Spending $40-$75 a pop numerous times a month on useless shite adds up over a year, identify it and work on it.





Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
17094 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 1:56 pm to
Agree 100%. Just because you get "free money" doesn't mean you should take it, especially with tv's etc. Hell for my furniture I used my Chase card to buy it and paid it off as soon as it posted and got $400 back since I met the threshold. I was spending that money anyway since we moved into a house.



Personally, Ive only financed my house. My wife's futures cars will be financed.

My cars, I plan on paying cash down the road even though they will be crappy. I'm not a car guy.
This post was edited on 7/24/13 at 2:01 pm
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17099 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 2:02 pm to
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No NFL Sunday ticket this year.


Now you are just being unreasonable.
Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
17094 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 2:08 pm to
I have a feeling there might be a little trolling going on. At least he's not of those people who rent a tv etc year round and pay on a weekly basis.
Posted by schlow mo
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2010
5245 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 2:10 pm to
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At least he's not of those people who rent a tv etc year round and pay on a weekly basis.


People are so fricking dumb
Posted by MasCervezas
Ocean Springs
Member since Jul 2013
7958 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 2:20 pm to
do those Credit Consolidation outfits hurt your credit? I never understood how that stuff works...
Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
17094 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 2:37 pm to
Yes, it hurts it bigtime. However, my parents bit the bullet and it worked for them. Their score has since recovered nicely.


I don't recommend if you're not serious about getting rid of the debt. If my parents didn't pay, their rates were going back up.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26989 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 7:06 pm to
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repayment on other things prior to the retail contract coming due,


I am not very bright but not this foolish.

Those payments get MADE. Interest if not paid is like 26%!

And we are not "struggling". The debt is just looming and we are sick of it. It is just time to suck it up. And the "debt snowball" appears to be the best method.

Before the car notes we went 3 years with both vehicles paid and it was glorious. It is what allowed us to built up the nice down payment for home. One car is paid next month. The second is gonna be a couple years after that.

I feel you just have to live with car notes at times. If I had 30 grand sittting around to pay cash on a car I would probably blow some.

People are in much worse situations than us. By then end of the year we should have 4 cards knocked out minimum and rotate the others into teaser rate new cards.

It was all a matter of setting our minds to it. That 50 Grand numbers was the "spark" I needed.
Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
17094 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 7:17 pm to
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nice down payment for home.


How much did you put down?

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I feel you just have to live with car notes at times. If I had 30 grand sittting around to pay cash on a car I would probably blow some.



Really? You'd just be 20k in debt now or have 30k to invest with.


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And we are not "struggling"


I would say you are, 50k debt not including a house.


quote:

People are in much worse situations than us. By then end of the year we should have 4 cards knocked out


True, good luck to you! Do your best.
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37714 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 7:35 pm to
Truly sad he doesnt even see how screwed he ia
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 7:42 pm to
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Truly sad he doesnt even see how screwed he ia



He isn't screwed if he makes the appropriate changes...and he's clearly moving to do this. He's not going to sell both his cars and move to beans and rice overnight.
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